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stickman 03-10-2015 03:37 PM

Max Unger
 
Only played in 6 games due to injury last year. According to ESPN. I assume a physical was part of this?

Rsanders24 03-10-2015 03:42 PM

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I hope so....because he is definitely not the strong point of the line...the line blocked better after he was out...

|Mitch| 03-10-2015 03:46 PM

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Players have to pass a physical before they are signed anytime, and Graham has battled injuries the past two seasons... I like the trade for a pro-bowl center and a first :bng:

hagan714 03-10-2015 03:53 PM

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if healthy i can live with the trade as long as the saints do not blow the pick. if he fails then i can not wait to see the new deal

OldMaid 03-10-2015 04:01 PM

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SO he and Graham are fan favs, gave good games, but have had injuries.

Seems even trade more or less.

Could Saints need a good C there giving Brees more protection, time..?

We will see.

Unger might be another trade still....

|Mitch| 03-10-2015 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 643787)
Seems even trade more or less.

We thieved a pro-bowl center and a first round pick this year for Graham and our 4th round pick.

We have two first round picks this year...

Nowhere do I see an even trade, I think we suckered them just a little :bng:

arsaint 03-10-2015 04:28 PM

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Tim Lelito to guard and Grubbs or Evans on a bus out of town - UNLESS they would BOTH take a pay cut

|Mitch| 03-10-2015 04:30 PM

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Armstead|Lelito|Unger|Evans|Strief

How does that sound?

AsylumGuido 03-10-2015 04:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 643753)
I hope so....because he is definitely not the strong point of the line...the line blocked better after he was out...

Wrong. Lynch averaged 50 yards per game more with Unger in there. Unger was the best OL on the Seahawks squad.

hagan714 03-10-2015 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 643832)
Tim Lelito to guard and Grubbs or Evans on a bus out of town - UNLESS they would BOTH take a pay cut

i am not counting out a trade to the bills yet.

but Grubbs Unger Evans at the heart of the line is scary.

either way we are more flexible in the middle of the OL

now fix the wings

OT Jake Fisher is the last piece of the puzzle in the draft. LT or RT of the bench would be huge in case of injury. will push for starting time day one of camp.

lee909 03-10-2015 05:09 PM

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Draft Collins and ship out Grubbs
Lellito can be back up for the whole interior

dizzle88 03-10-2015 05:16 PM

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Makes it interesting what we do now

LB with #13?
OL with #31?

Rugby Saint II 03-10-2015 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 643901)
Makes it interesting what we do now

LB with #13?
OL with #31?

This! So This! :cheering:

foreverfan 03-10-2015 06:39 PM

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Career highlights and awards
  • 2× Pro Bowl (2012, 2013)
  • First-team All-Pro (2012)
  • Super Bowl champion (XLVIII)
  • 2× NFC Champion (2013, 2014)
  • First-team All-American (2008)
  • First-team All-Pac-10 (2007, 2008)

foreverfan 03-10-2015 06:40 PM

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Ed Daniels on NOLA TV says the Saints may trade Brees too and move up to take a QB.
What could we get for Brees anyway?

Hum....

arsaint 03-10-2015 06:42 PM

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Anyone know cap swap/savings between Graham and Unger?

ChrisXVI 03-10-2015 07:30 PM

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From PFF:

Saints: Balanced Unger solidifies center spot
Ben Stockwell | March 10, 2015



There may be some consternation about the Saints giving up Jimmy Graham in this trade but they have at least acquired one of the league’s premier centers and upgraded a fourth round pick to a first round pick with it. Though fans won’t be swooning over Max Unger’s play-making ability, he ties down the center of the Saints’ line with a quality blocker in both the run and pass games.

This season injuries limited Unger to 385 snaps in the regular season but some punishing and consistent run blocking in those limited snaps ensured he finished as our No. 4 ranked center. Only twice in his nine starts last season did Unger grade below zero and he graded above +1.0 in six of those games. But for injury this season looked like being a match for Unger’s 2012 season where he earned a +31.1 overall grade, built around his run blocking where he never earned a run block grade below -1.0 all season long.

The loss of Graham will be felt in New Orleans and the Saints will need plans in place to replace him, but their offense has always been at its strongest when it has balance, and that balance is centered on their offensive line. With Jahri Evans starting to decline the Saints have moved to lock down their interior offensive line with the acquisition of Unger and having re-signed Mark Ingram we may yet see a re-emphasis of the running game in New Orleans this season.

Williebing 03-10-2015 07:47 PM

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I am not surprised, I knew we had to make some cap room. However, I think we should have gotten A LOT MORE than a center with questionable health and a 1st rounder for a 4th rounder.
At the very least, we should not have needed to throw in the 4th rounder. It is difficult to believe that no one would have offered more than this.

hagan714 03-10-2015 07:59 PM

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Caponomics of move: ($9M Graham dead money + $4.5M Unger contract) - ($11M Graham original cap hit) = Saints net loss of $2.5M '15 cap space

we lose 2.5 million this year but save 6.5 mil next year.

plus the last two years (2015 & 16) of Unger contract is not guaranteed so no dead money

lee909 03-10-2015 08:01 PM

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Going to have a lot of money to spend next year once the deals are cut.Holes to fill but the money will be there from what i can see

saintsfan1976 03-10-2015 08:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 643901)
Makes it interesting what we do now

LB with #13?
OL with #31?

Or trade up? For a wide receiver...? :red:

arsaint 03-11-2015 05:55 AM

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Haven't focused in on the draft much yet, but is there anyone at any position that is worth moving up for?

We've only got enough coin between the two 1st rounders (on the draft chart) to move up to around #6.

ChrisXVI 03-11-2015 07:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 644247)
Haven't focused in on the draft much yet, but is there anyone at any position that is worth moving up for?

We've only got enough coin between the two 1st rounders (on the draft chart) to move up to around #6.

I'm probably the only one who would love to get ahead of Atlanta and snag Vic Beasley! But at the same time I'm cool with staying put and taking the best defensive players available.

lee909 03-11-2015 07:21 AM

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Ill be pissed of we are using the second first to move up. We ha e too many holes to fill and that 2nd 1st is a good player cheap for 4 years.

hagan714 03-11-2015 07:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 644073)
Or trade up? For a wide receiver...? :red:

trade up to trade down? we now can jump ahead od the jets and hold Marcus Mariota hostage. washington will never trade with phili. so enter the saints. cut Lofton and need a ILB? enter the eagles and Kiko Alonso and a bunch of picks and a willingness to sell the house

Mardigras9 03-11-2015 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 643884)

but Grubbs Unger Evans at the heart of the line is scary.


Protecting Drew = Great possibilities!!

Cruize 03-11-2015 11:48 AM

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The Saints needed a center. If healthy, he is a steal. If not, he was a kind of a throw in to begin with. I would have seen if they would have thrown in ANY of their defensive players or coaches. :)


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