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spkb25 03-11-2015 07:28 AM

Hawthorne takes pay cut to stay
 
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New Orleans Saints linebacker David Hawthorne took a pay cut to remain on the roster and help the team slide under the 2015 salary cap, according to NFLPA records.

Hawthorne's base salary was cut from $2 million to $1.19 million in 2015 and from $4 million to $1.75 million in 2016.

David Hawthorne accepts pay cut as New Orleans Saints slide under salary cap | NOLA.com

Danno 03-11-2015 07:35 AM

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Good news. He was our best LB according to PFF stats wasn't he?

Of course thats not saying much at all.

hagan714 03-11-2015 07:35 AM

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saw the writing on the wall

no one is safe

Hawthorne's base salary was cut from $2 million to $1.19 million in 2015 and from $4 million to $1.75 million in 2016.
The newly updated records show a dramatic pay cut for veteran receiver Marques Colston, who also agreed to restructure his contract to remain with the Saints.
Colston's base salary dips from $6.9 million to $1.445 million in 2015, according to records, and from $7.7 million to $2.65 million in 2016.

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The NFLPA currently lists the Saints at $4.33 million under the salary cap, although that doesn't yet include Tuesday's trade of Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks, which should reduce the team's net cap room by $2.5 million in 2015.

David Hawthorne accepts pay cut as New Orleans Saints slide under salary cap | NOLA.com

next? :cool:

spkb25 03-11-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 644275)
Good news. He was our best LB according to PFF stats wasn't he?

Of course thats not saying much at all.

Yikers if that's true :)

saintsfan1976 03-11-2015 07:44 AM

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Hawthorne is slightly better in coverage than Lofton.

papz 03-11-2015 08:06 AM

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Smart man. He should know he has the most chance for regular playing time here and if he has a good season, we could always restructure here. There isn't much potential for a salary increase if you don't get playing time to showcase your abilities.

ScottF 03-11-2015 08:26 AM

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makes you wonder about what Lofton was offered, if anything

NonieT 03-11-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 644281)
Hawthorne is slightly better in coverage than Lofton.

Very slightly!!!

Mardigras9 03-11-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 644275)
Good news. He was our best LB according to PFF stats wasn't he?

Of course thats not saying much at all.

No doubt to that not saying much last year. Restructuring may become more prevelant after Jimmy was traded, no one is safe (except Drew).

foreverfan 03-11-2015 10:25 AM

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Cut them all.

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|Mitch| 03-11-2015 11:07 AM

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Makes you wonder who will man the middle with Hawthorne in 3-4 sets... We have many options with two first round picks! :bananajoy:

jnormand 03-11-2015 12:01 PM

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Glad he took a pay cut instead of being cut. I'm sure he was on the chopping block.

QBREES9 03-11-2015 12:14 PM

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Good, now do the work and get your money back.

K Major 03-11-2015 12:25 PM

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We can't leave the position completely empty and this does not guarantee he will be the starter this season. I still hope the 'plan' is to DRAFT and sign a few linebackers ;).

darstep 03-11-2015 12:34 PM

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Good to have the veteran still around.
I think he will be good for the field and the locker room.
4 million down to 1.1 is huge, but if the market isn't much better, he made a good choice.
Lofton is outside looking in, and may end up where Hawthorne is right now (if that).
Making phone calls, smiling a lot and shaking hands can get old quick.
He can still play ball and pay the rent.
Good spot to be in when the spots are so few.

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 644390)
We can't leave the position completely empty and this does not guarantee he will be the starter this season. I still hope the 'plan' is to DRAFT and sign a few linebackers ;).

Nah; we have enough safeties to fill the spots... :rofl:

AsylumGuido 03-11-2015 12:52 PM

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This is one of those cases where there truly is a pay cut. Hawthorne was due a $2.5M roster bonus. He was obviously told he would be released unless he agreed to restructure. While his annual salary was reduced, the team saved the $2.5M in roster bonus, but did give Hawthorne a $1.5M restructuring Bonus ($750K in 2015 and $750K in 2016) to ease the pain a bit.

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Rugby Saint II 03-11-2015 01:23 PM

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I just read that a player can't just agree to take less money unless he his told he will be cut if he doesn't. Can somebody confirm this?

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 644412)
I just read that a player can't just agree to take less money unless he his told he will be cut if he doesn't. Can somebody confirm this?

That has to be false; Tom Brady restructured his deal a couple years back taking a lot less money... No way in hell would he have been released regardless what he did with the contract

CheramieIII 03-11-2015 02:27 PM

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This guy really wants to play for us. I really like him now and hope he has the best season of his career

AsylumGuido 03-11-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 644418)
That has to be false; Tom Brady restructured his deal a couple years back taking a lot less money... No way in hell would he have been released regardless what he did with the contract

Nope. That was an extension that simply freed space in the year of the new deal. If I remember corectly, Brady got an additional $25M in the form of a signing bonus and future guarantees. That is a good deal different than what happened with Hawthorne.

In that case the team does cut the player to avoid the roster bonus and renegotiates a new deal, or more precisely, signs the pre-negotiated new deal. The previous contract has to be voided before a new one can take its place. Cutting the player is how this is accomplished.

MarchingOn 03-11-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 644366)
Makes you wonder who will man the middle with Hawthorne in 3-4 sets... We have many options with two first round picks! :bananajoy:

Heaven help us if Hawthorne is manning anything for us this year. Backup only.

Ran straight into the trash more than any other of our LBs vs the run. Sucks vs the run worse than Lofton, sucks vs the pass. 2nd string and 3rd string if we draft LBs well.

Danno 03-11-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 644585)
Heaven help us if Hawthorne is manning anything for us this year. Backup only.

Ran straight into the trash more than any other of our LBs vs the run. Sucks vs the run worse than Lofton, sucks vs the pass. 2nd string and 3rd string if we draft LBs well.

He's middle of the pack for starting lb's. He not great, but he's nowhere as horrible as you claim

darstep 03-12-2015 09:05 AM

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Both Hawthorn and Lofton showed up a few Sundays.
Both had good 4-5+ tackle games.
But just like ALL the others, they had 1z games, or zeros.
Nobody showed up every week or in back-to-back weeks.
NOBODY had weekly Vilma 8+ numbers...NOBODY.
What we really need is some consistency.
Somebody(s) that can give us some solid play at their spot EVERY week.
Control their niche every week, or at least 12 weeks out of 16.
Every player will get out matched or man handled every now and then.
4 good/decent games out of 16 weeks just won't cut it.


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