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44Champs 03-11-2015 11:59 AM

A Breakdown of Why the JG Trade Makes Sense
 
TRADE FALLOUT: Why the Saints sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks - BIG EASY SPORTS TALK


"There’s no question Graham will be missed dearly, and New Orleans appreciates his amazing contributions over the years as a Saint. But this was a tough decision that could end up helping the Saints in the future."

foreverfan 03-11-2015 12:17 PM

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jnormand 03-11-2015 12:18 PM

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The article indicates that JG was a distraction in the locker room, that he had an attitude problem and he didn't want to get hit in practice.

I wonder if any of that was true.....

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 644385)
The article indicates that JG was a distraction in the locker room, that he had an attitude problem and he didn't want to get hit in practice.

I wonder if any of that was true.....

Well we surely knew that he shied away from contact during games at times...

Euphoria 03-11-2015 12:27 PM

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This is what I have been saying all along.

OL and DL is where the game is meant to be played. If you can't protect the QB it doesn't matter who you have at quarterback. The OL needs upgrading and it needs to start at Center. When you build an OL the best place to start is Center and work your way out.

THey may not say it but essentially we have entered rebuilding stage.

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 12:37 PM

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And a damn good O-Line does more than just help Drew; Ingram should be really happy!

spkb25 03-11-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 644376)
TRADE FALLOUT: Why the Saints sent Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks - BIG EASY SPORTS TALK


"There’s no question Graham will be missed dearly, and New Orleans appreciates his amazing contributions over the years as a Saint. But this was a tough decision that could end up helping the Saints in the future."

That's a great read

|Mitch| 03-11-2015 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 644400)
That's a great read

Reading; and I spot this:

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Unger has only allowed 5 total sacks in his entire 6-year career
Holy ****; Batman!

saintfan 03-11-2015 01:14 PM

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I have said it.

Other's who post here and who are tons smarter than I am have said it.

The Dallas Cowboys of the 90's proved it out.

That line is the single most important aspect of football (assuming the QB isn't an idiot). And we certainly aren't devoid of talent without Jimmy. We have weapons. Plenty of them. What we don't have anymore is domination up front. We have a QB who will kill opponents with just a little time and the ability to step up in the pocket.

Ingram WILL rush for 1200+ easy next year. Hill will have people saying "Jimmy who?" after 4 or 5 games. Drew will be as solid as ever, his deep ball will make a miraculous return, and we WILL be contenders. All of this IF we fix the o-line, and the JG trade goes a long way to that end because we just put a friggin beast at Center. I'm betting Evans rebounds a bit. Not sure about Grubs. We shall see.

This was a WISE move by the front office. WISE I tell you all.

Now, lets not blow that extra 1st rounder please.

Thank you.

:bng:

Jamessr 03-11-2015 01:24 PM

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After read the article and your comments I feel alot better about the trade.

stickman 03-11-2015 01:38 PM

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The article also pointed out something that had me curious. The Seahawks just traded for a guy that they COMPLETELY took out of a playoff game, and that one of their own players called out for being soft. Odd.

ikecomp 03-11-2015 01:48 PM

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Great article. good analysis and insight into why a lot of saints fans are not outraged by the trade. Graham has been a monster for us but his shortcomings have become more glaring over the years.

Injury issues, drive killing drops, lack of physicality when the ball is not already in his hands, lack of consistency towards the end of the season, etc.

I wish Graham all the best but I'm all for this deal. Plus graham will realize in Seattle it's a lot different having wilson throw you the ball than brees. He will make an impact but not the huge impact everyone is expecting.

halloween 65 03-11-2015 02:03 PM

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I finally got my wish. Now I would like a TE like Shockey, one with a heart and passion for the great game of football.

Crusader 03-11-2015 02:38 PM

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Good read!

billyt81 03-11-2015 03:12 PM

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He mentions Minnesota TE Maxx Williams, who I mentioned here too. He speculates the Saints could take him at 31, but with a 4.78 40 at the combine we could get him in the 3rd or even 4th round, I think. I do lo like the guy though. He reminds me of Jason Witten. He is a tough blocker and good route runner with soft hands.

VegasSaint9 03-11-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 644393)
This is what I have been saying all along.

OL and DL is where the game is meant to be played. If you can't protect the QB it doesn't matter who you have at quarterback. The OL needs upgrading and it needs to start at Center. When you build an OL the best place to start is Center and work your way out.

THey may not say it but essentially we have entered rebuilding stage.

You mean reloading stage. We aren't rebuilding until #9 is no longer the QB in Nola. Payton's good at retooling the makeup of a team. He did it in 2006, 2009, and 2013.

VegasSaint9 03-11-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ikecomp (Post 644421)
Great article. good analysis and insight into why a lot of saints fans are not outraged by the trade. Graham has been a monster for us but his shortcomings have become more glaring over the years.

Injury issues, drive killing drops, lack of physicality when the ball is not already in his hands, lack of consistency towards the end of the season, etc.

I wish Graham all the best but I'm all for this deal. Plus graham will realize in Seattle it's a lot different having wilson throw you the ball than brees. He will make an impact but not the huge impact everyone is expecting.

Wilson's no slouch and has mastered improvisation. He emulates Brees in a lot of instances. His accuracy has been way better since 2013. And hes only what, 25 years old or something?

ikecomp 03-11-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 644460)
Wilson's no slouch and has mastered improvisation. He emulates Brees in a lot of instances. His accuracy has been way better since 2013. And hes only what, 25 years old or something?

I didn't say he was terrible but it's different going from a guy that could throw you open and put some additional touch on the ball and a guy that's throwing in more unconventional ways. Just to illustrate, drew was second in the league in completion percentage last year even though he didn't have a great year. Wilson was 20th. To further add to that brees had more completions than wilson had attempts. I think wilson is a franchise guy but if we're talking about purely passing, it's not even close.

AllSaints 03-11-2015 03:49 PM

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I like the trade but I don't want us to waste the draft pick..... We have 2 first rounders we can get some key players here I hope we don't mess it up

foreverfan 03-11-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 644408)
I have said it.

Other's who post here and who are tons smarter than I am have said it.

The Dallas Cowboys of the 90's proved it out.

That line is the single most important aspect of football (assuming the QB isn't an idiot). And we certainly aren't devoid of talent without Jimmy. We have weapons. Plenty of them. What we don't have anymore is domination up front. We have a QB who will kill opponents with just a little time and the ability to step up in the pocket.

Ingram WILL rush for 1200+ easy next year. Hill will have people saying "Jimmy who?" after 4 or 5 games. Drew will be as solid as ever, his deep ball will make a miraculous return, and we WILL be contenders. All of this IF we fix the o-line, and the JG trade goes a long way to that end because we just put a friggin beast at Center. I'm betting Evans rebounds a bit. Not sure about Grubs. We shall see.

This was a WISE move by the front office. WISE I tell you all.

Now, lets not blow that extra 1st rounder please.

Thank you.

:bng:

We all are certainly hoping the truck so. :D

hagan714 03-12-2015 06:50 AM

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we all have been talking about OC for a few years now and it appears SP went out and got the player he wanted. we made the first call.

every one is talking seahawks as early super bowl favs but i beg to differ. they have lost two huge pieces in the interior of that OL. i say teams now can game plan for Wilson scrambling. he will end up bailing out of the pocket more than ever before.

i like the trade. never liked JG contract and its length is boarder line the way out the door time. the end of his shelf life is near. the saints get a pro bowl player in ever sense of the word. on or off the field or in the locker room he is respected for the pro he is.

Sure Drew and Ingram will love the addition sure but Grubbs and Evans are the ones that will benefit the most. their jobs just got a hell of a lot easier.

Seahawks may end up regretting this move.

|Mitch| 03-12-2015 10:51 AM

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