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papz 03-15-2015 12:49 PM

Saints are betting big that their retooling and newfound flexibility pay off
 
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This isn’t it.

The white flag isn’t waving. The Saints aren’t tapping out.

It might be hard to see what’s happening over the pile of bodies in the corner of the room, but there is a retooling taking place in New Orleans. It’s a new beginning, with new philosophies. Where it all leads is yet to be determined.

It’s possible the Saints will drown under all this change. They felt the culprit behind last season’s 7-9 finish was in part the result of shipping out too many familiar faces for fresh ones. Maybe that happens again. But at its core, what has happened in the past week is a refusal to settle for the status quo.

This is setting the house on fire to gain the flexibility and space needed to not just win the NFC South but to transform back into a contender. Will it work? That’s the question that will determine whether this is remembered as one of the darkest periods of the Sean Payton era or the extension of one of the most successful runs in franchise history.


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FinSaint 03-15-2015 01:39 PM

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The draft will certainly be interesting this year.

I just hope they won't throw away too many of their picks to move up in the draft.

VegasSaint9 03-15-2015 01:46 PM

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We're gonna go 3-13 or 13-3 lol. Probably closer to 10-6 to be realistic. No expectations after last year.. I think this offseason will be good for us long-term but hopefully we get some impact rookies.

VegasSaint9 03-15-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 646083)
The draft will certainly be interesting this year.

I just hope they won't throw away too many of their picks to move up in the draft.

Exactly unless they somehow get more I think its best to stay put as it is right now. I hope they only move up for an OLB but thats it.

nola_swammi 03-15-2015 01:54 PM

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The only player reasonable to move up to get is Vic Beasley, I hope they stay put and find some players to reduce their cap. They done it with Kenny Stills, hopefully Ellerbe will be worth it.

halloween 65 03-15-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 646087)
We're gonna go 3-13 or 13-3 lol. Probably closer to 10-6 to be realistic. No expectations after last year.. I think this offseason will be good for us long-term but hopefully we get some impact rookies.

I'm thinking 12-4, I like what we have done so far. I'm not so sure about impact player being taken over solid players that contibute on a regular basis. This draft has a ton of solid players, it's a great draft.

VegasSaint9 03-15-2015 08:34 PM

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I just meant players that can come in and play ball you know? They dont have to be amazing, but some solid starters would be amazing.

NOLA54 03-15-2015 08:43 PM

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We have 9 draft picks so far. And since no one will be picking them to make the playoffs I say let's shock the world.

st thomas 03-15-2015 08:46 PM

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I've been pumped with all the wheelin and dealins , its gonna put us in the mix again, we sent some problems away. jimmy grahm started thinkin he was bigger that the team imo, he was sent off and we have and all pro center in return. hell ya i'm gonna miss the cracker but I missed reggie bush too, and he got sent off too when he disappeared in the seattle game back when. i'm lovin payton more and more he wants players with stomick, not run ob .

NonieT 03-15-2015 09:37 PM

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Ya think they might trade a player during the draft?

Mardigras9 03-16-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 (Post 646087)
We're gonna go 3-13 or 13-3 lol.

and this team NOT being predictable is a great thing.

CharityMike 03-16-2015 10:25 AM

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No one on the outside is giving us a chance. I could care less! The way I see it, we just added 2 super bowl players to our roster in Unger and Browner. Both have been labeled as leaders and I dont think we are getting any kudos for that. Outsiders act like we are doomed because we lost JG. As it has already been stated here, he wasn't on the team when we won our SB.

lee909 03-16-2015 10:29 AM

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Im concerned about our recievers if im honest. Take away the two vets and they dont have 110 receptions between them

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 646174)
Ya think they might trade a player during the draft?

I'll be surprised if they don't.:bng:

lumm0x 03-16-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 646267)
No one on the outside is giving us a chance. I could care less! The way I see it, we just added 2 super bowl players to our roster in Unger and Browner. Both have been labeled as leaders and I dont think we are getting any kudos for that. Outsiders act like we are doomed because we lost JG. As it has already been stated here, he wasn't on the team when we won our SB.

This is exactly right. All the "analysts" think this is a fire sale because of our cap mismanagement. They can't see beyond us moving Jimmy Graham, one of the best players at his position. They think addressing needs and lack of depth is less important than in my mind one of the least important positions in the game.

We were horrific on defense and we had no depth across our roster. Injuries killed us everywhere. We had far too many overpaid and under performing people on this roster and Graham and Grubbs were two obvious ones.

Unger is a massive upgrade from Goodwin/Lelito. Spiller adds on of the most dynamic athletes in the game and replaces the loss we suffered when we moved on from Sproles. We sorely missed that mismatch RB who could exploit the outside and the passing game. We have added a great veteran leader at CB and a promising LB for the 3-4 scheme. All while shedding cap overages.

Most teams that far over the cap purge contracts and don't add anything beyond league minimum players and draft picks. We are doing it while actually addressing major needs positions and with some of the top players available.

This is a re-tooling and not a rebuilding effort. As Loomis put it, we have a 7-9 problem. Being better across the roster is hoping to pay more dividends than being exceptional at one or two positions.

Beastmode 03-16-2015 02:36 PM

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I feel confident we're moving up. I also think we get a either White or Amari.

ScottF 03-16-2015 02:56 PM

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Our division was awful last year, and I don't see anybody else making moves to get better. 10-6 wins it

dizzle88 03-16-2015 03:03 PM

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The thing I like about the spiller signing is he's not only a third down back

The guy has ran for 1000+ yards before, he had a 1700 all purpose season with buffalo

He's faster than sproles, Spiller has that 4.3 speed, Sproles was quick in space but his long field speed was/is nowhere near CJ's.

The 2011 backfield was perfect and I think we need to get back to that, Ingram and Khiry Robinson running with power and Spiller being the change of pace back.


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