New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
 

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton said the team has been in discussions with defensive lineman Cameron Jordan about a contract extension.

During the NFL owners meetings on Wednesday, Payton said Jordan was a key part of the team's future and General Manager Mickey Loomis and Jordan's representatives were working on a deal for the Saints' 2011 first-round pick.

Jordan enters 2015 in the last year of his rookie deal. The Saints picked up Jordan's fifth-year option, which will pay the 6-foot-4, 287-pounder a shade under $7 million next season.

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Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
 

I have mixed emotions about this. He hasn't been producing lately and I almost cringe at another long term deal for another average player. I wondered if he would be available for trade on draft day?

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I was really hoping he would become a real force. Not sure what happened, he looked average at best most of the time.

Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
 

Now's the time. After a mediocre year he shouldn't command JJ Watt-ish money.

Then again if the real Cam Jordan is the 2014 version, we'll overpay.

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He was doing really well in 2013. Last year he was kind of a marginally good player. But most of us thought he was going to have a career year last year.

Its not a bad idea to lock him up for a couple more seasons, as long as they don't pay him more than he's worth (Gallette).

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I hope the new deal has incentives and escalators, and as little guaranteed money as possible.

I think the real Cam is closer to what we saw in 2013 instead of the 2014 Cam. All in all, I feel like he is a much safer investment than Junior ever was.

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He wasn't a force at all last season. If we play a 3-4 he's a little light but has perfect size inh a 4-3. I hope we don't mix both schemes with players that don't fit, that crap is getting old and has not been consistant from year to year.

Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
 

The whole defense wasn't a force last season... I have no problem with extending his contract, we've all seen what he's capable of...

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Certain units underachieve because certain players aren't doing their jobs

In 2013 Junior and Jordan both benefited from people like Akiem Hicks getting a massive push up the middle, it means that the QB cannot step up and fall right into the outside guys laps

2014 - Akiem Hicks was very underwhelming, I saw Jordan especially beat the tackle around the outside but the QB just stepped up into a totally clean pocket due to there being no push from the inside guys

Get that inside sorted and Jordan should be back to his best.

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Agreed. Gotta believe an improved secondary will help

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This is why I wouldn't mind moving up to get Shelton... If by some miracle he falls to 13 we better take the guy. Shelton would be a game-changer for us.

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It want help in the run game if the front 7 get gashed like last season. A stud NT is needed up front., with stud ILB'ers to shut the run down and put pressure on the qb. then the secondary can improve.

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In theory they should feed off each other... A secondary who can cover just a second or two longer gives the front 7 that added extra time hence the term "coverage" sack...

Likewise if the front 7 seven are getting decent pressure on the QB, can make a struggling secondary appear better than they actually are...

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Agree about that in the passing game but it still leaves the run game which we were eaten alive last season. I don't think we have shut down CB's Lewis is close but our #2 and #3 needs to be as effective to make that work.

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hopefully we have learned not to overpay this position Grant/Smith/Gallette

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Hicks can only do so much when the NT does not require dbl teams. it all starts in the middle and works it way outward. Our NT was handled all season long by just one blocker. that is a huge issue.

Jr does not require double teams so that leaves everyone to block hicks on that side of the line.

get NT solved and the rest will fall into line. till then the front 3 of the saints will be a bunch of push overs.

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Someone like Shelton would be a dream at 13 and then to add an ILB like Anthony or McKinney in the 2nd round would already make that front 7 a whole lot better.

Re: New Orleans Saints, defensive lineman Cameron Jordan working on contract extension
 

He isn't in the same universe as JJ Watt. He's an average to slight above average DE but not great and certainly not even close to a JJ Watt talent. He has ONE above average year out of 4! He is a solid DE but isn't a superstar talent.

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We only line up in a 3-4 about 33% of the time so we really need to stop analyzing these players as they relate to our "base" defense. Jordan and Hicks hardly ever line up as 5 techniques.

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I do agree with that statement, now my question is why get 3-4 players that excel in a 3-4 and put them in a 4-3 or 4-3 players that don't excell in a 3-4. Why not get players that fit the scheme and beef it up from there. Recent examples, Byrd and Ellerby 3-4 players at their best. Hawthorn 3-4. Jordan 4-3 it makes our D weak.

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I couldn't tell ya man. I'm so jealous of teams that can just line up in their base defense and impose their will on an offense. With us it's like "Let's use multiple safeties" or "Let's use an amoeba defense where we have no down linemen even though none of the players out there will be able to make a play."

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Maybe I remember this wrong, but didn't Jordan play in a 3-4 defense in college?

At least I remember people saying that he would fit better in the Saints' defense after the signs indicated that they were moving towards a 3-4 look from GG's 4-3.

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I felt the same way about Sedric Ellis coming out of USC. Thought he was a 'can't miss' player. Didn't we move up to get him?

But yes, I get it with Shelton. He is a force in the middle.

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He did indeed... And he would probably dominate on a regular basis if he played most of his snaps at the 5 technique. Unfortunately though he's spent the vast majority of his pro career lined up at left DE in 4 man fronts even though we've supposedly been a 3-4 defense for two years.

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This is a great signing. Cam is a cornerstone of the D-Line and he draws a double team wherever he lines up on the D-Liine. Get him signed now while he has little leverage and that way you don't have to overpay him like we did with Jimmy. As fas as everyone saying that he's too light in the pants, Cameron Jordan is 6'4, 287 lbs, JJ Watt is 6'5 289 lbs. Please stop saying that he's light in the pants. he is the right size and has the ability to provide adequate pressure. Now did he underwhelm last year? Yes he did and I'm sure he knows this. But please stop saying he's too small to play the position. If we put him on the trading blck, the phone wouldn't stop ringing for this guy. I guarantee if we can get another True 5-Technique DE to play opposite him instead of a NT/DT in Akiem, we would see just how good Cam is.

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Yes Sir you are correct. Cam was a 3-4 5 Technique at Cal. And a darn good one, good enough that Bill Belicheck and The Patriots were looking at him if we didn't draft him.