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SmashMouth 03-25-2015 12:43 PM

Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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It appeared the New Orleans Saints created a significant hole in the defense's starting lineup after releasing middle linebacker Curtis Lofton earlier this month. Saints coach Sean Payton had a plan in place, however, and said Wednesday David Hawthorne will shift over to replace Lofton.

The Saints retained Hawthorne, who initially looked to be a prime candidate to become a salary cap casualty, this offseason. He agreed to take a pay cut and the Saints unloaded Lofton, who was set to count more than $9 million against the 2015 salary cap.

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Danno 03-25-2015 12:51 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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This would also likely shift newly acquired Dannell Ellerbe into Hawthorne's role as a weakside middle linebacker. The Saints picked up Ellerbe from Miami in the Kenny Stills trade earlier this month.
I like it.

ChrisXVI 03-25-2015 01:06 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Weakside ILB is where Ellerbe had success in Baltimore so that's a good idea.

Rugby Saint II 03-25-2015 01:36 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
So, Ellerbe and Hawthorne get to play the position where they exceled before.........it sounds like a recipe for success. I am so tired of moving someone to a position because there is a deficiency at the spot.

spkb25 03-25-2015 02:18 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
hes better in coverage than lofton

saintfan 03-25-2015 02:19 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Championship!

spkb25 03-25-2015 02:19 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
if Ellerbe pans out, huge help

ChrisXVI 03-25-2015 03:10 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
This is all pre-draft though... I'm sure if we draft a guy like Stephone Anthony or Benardrick McKinney we could see things play out differently.

FinSaint 03-25-2015 03:15 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
This is initially where I pictured him fitting in the Saints' defense back when the possibility of signing him first surfaced. Then I was really surprised when they also signed Lofton, who seemed like someone with a similar skillset and best fit to play the same spot as Hawthorne.

Hopefully Hawthorne can regain some semblance of his good form with Seattle, although it's years and couple of injuries later.

halloween 65 03-25-2015 03:20 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Hawthorn played OLB in a 4-3. JR was at DE. So if we go 4-3 that will put 2 ILB'ers out of place if we run a 3-4 both need to stay on the inside.

Rsanders24 03-25-2015 03:21 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Am I the only one that's not excited about Hawthorne being in the middle? I would think that if he was better in the middle than Lofton that would have been his spot...and that Lofton would have only been on the field on 1st and 2nd down...I haven't seem anything out of Hawthorne that makes me think this is a good move with our D line already being somewhat soft.

FinSaint 03-25-2015 04:27 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
I just wonder how Hawthorne's initial injury affected the whole trajectory his and Lofton's careers took with the Saints?!

Hawthorne wasn't able to battle it out with Lofton going into the their first season with the Saints and even when he was able to return to the line-up he didn't seem 100%. Maybe because of those events, Lofton was able to cement that mike spot for himself and the coaching staff saw him as the QB of the defense without really giving it a serious thought after that.

I'm probably just trying to be optimistic about the situation, and if the draft goes well Hawthorne might end up being a back-up during the upcoming season.

|Mitch| 03-25-2015 04:31 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Or maybe it's because Lofton wasn't as versatile as Hawthorne... Couldn't pay Lofton starter money to sit on the bench because he wouldn't have been able to play outside...

NOLA54 03-25-2015 04:32 PM

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It is sounding like we have a plan & are heading in the right direction.

ScottF 03-25-2015 05:04 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
My concern is that we had two guys battling for a position for 3 years, and we cut the winner. Unfortunately our 'plan' seems to be based more on money than ability.
And with this announcement, maybe SP is preparing us for who we take #1...doesn't seem like it will be a LB

ChrisXVI 03-25-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 647813)
My concern is that we had two guys battling for a position for 3 years, and we cut the winner. Unfortunately our 'plan' seems to be based more on money than ability.
And with this announcement, maybe SP is preparing us for who we take #1...doesn't seem like it will be a LB

I know it might seem that way... But like I said a few comments ago: the draft hasn't even happened yet. Moving Hawthorne to the Mike doesn't mean that he'll start there... It's just where he's slotted right now.

CheramieIII 03-25-2015 05:34 PM

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We trusted Mickey to get us under the cap without tearing the team apart. He did that. Now we need to trust that COACH knows what he's doing, CUZ HE DOES!

hagan714 03-25-2015 05:48 PM

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he is over due to have the impact we all thought he would have when we signed him. fingers crossed.

spkb25 03-25-2015 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 647802)
Or maybe it's because Lofton wasn't as versatile as Hawthorne... Couldn't pay Lofton starter money to sit on the bench because he wouldn't have been able to play outside...

This is actually a fair point and something I ws just thinking after reading that other comment. Some guys can play more than one spot so definitely possible.

NonieT 03-25-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 647770)
hes better in coverage than lofton

Not by much!

billyt81 03-26-2015 01:08 AM

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That all sounds great on paper. The front 7 is lacking a star. This sets us up to use each pick on the best player available. I think teams screw up in the draft trying to draft for needs. Certain years there may not be many good prospects at a particular position. Was Stanley Jean Baptiste the best player on the board when we picked him last year? I know Jarvis Landry was available and he looks great. He'd pair perfectly with Cooks. But like I've said, Payton doesn't draft LSU players. This year I'd love to see us take Collins, Kwon Alexander, Hunter and even Kenny Hilliard with a late pick. I heard the Pats have drafted a ton of LSU players in the last several years. Recipe for success and awesome for the fans. A WIN WIN!

|Mitch| 03-26-2015 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 647884)
Payton doesn't draft LSU players. This year I'd love to see us take Collins, Kwon Alexander, Hunter and even Kenny Hilliard with a late pick. I heard the Pats have drafted a ton of LSU players in the last several years. Recipe for success and awesome for the fans. A WIN WIN!

Biased much?

lee909 03-26-2015 03:03 AM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
Not one starter for the pats in the superbowl last year was a former LSU player

Danno 03-26-2015 07:42 AM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 647899)
Not one starter for the pats in the superbowl last year was a former LSU player

But there was one from Alabama!!! Roll Tide!!!:p

SmashMouth 03-26-2015 08:35 AM

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:poke:

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 647899)
Not one starter for the pats in the superbowl last year was a former LSU player

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And previously, BB had a ton of LSU talent ranging from Faulk to Ridley.

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lee909 03-26-2015 08:58 AM

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Not drafted by Bill though.
That was the comment i was referring to was that the Pats drafted loads of LSU players in the past couple of years.

nola_swammi 03-26-2015 09:09 AM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
I think this a smoke screen. I believe they have in mind to pick someone out this year draft to start in the Lofton's old position, Ellerbe & Hawthorne will compete for that weak side position

saintfan 03-26-2015 12:54 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 647947)
I think this a smoke screen. I believe they have in mind to pick someone out this year draft to start in the Lofton's old position, Ellerbe & Hawthorne will compete for that weak side position

This

UK_WhoDat 03-26-2015 04:45 PM

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Danno 03-26-2015 05:06 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 647947)
I think this a smoke screen. I believe they have in mind to pick someone out this year draft to start in the Lofton's old position, Ellerbe & Hawthorne will compete for that weak side position

Its quite possible that both Ellerbe and Hawthorne could be back-ups by mid-season or earlier.

jeanpierre 03-26-2015 09:46 PM

Re: Sean Payton says David Hawthorne will replace Curtis Lofton at middle linebacker
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 648016)
Its quite possible that both Ellerbe and Hawthorne could be back-ups by mid-season or earlier.

Let us hope so...


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