GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.

FinSaint · 03-25-2015, 07:18 PM

Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

Mr.Riaton · 03-25-2015, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

FinSaint · 03-25-2015, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

Mr.Riaton · 03-25-2015, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time.

Danno · 03-30-2015, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls.

99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it.

The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before.

03-25-2015, 07:18 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation. Just arguing against the validity of this assessment. ScottF likes this.

03-25-2015, 07:33 PM	#2
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation. Just arguing against the validity of this assessment. Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

03-25-2015, 08:38 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about. True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example. There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries. Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

03-25-2015, 08:59 PM	#4
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example. There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries. Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO. I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time. Danno likes this.

03-30-2015, 06:32 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls. Originally Posted by FinSaint Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation. Just arguing against the validity of this assessment. As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls. 99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it. The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before. Euphoria and dizzle88 like this.

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