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Danno 03-25-2015 02:05 PM

GMs with the highest % of Draft picks to make 1+ Pro Bowls.
 


Yeah, I was a bit shocked too.

frydaddy 03-25-2015 02:28 PM

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Color me confounded. I would never have guessed.

blackangold 03-25-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 647765)

Why are you shocked?

Pro-bowl equals popularity contest. Cowboys are one of the most popular teams.

dizzle88 03-25-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 647775)
Why are you shocked?

Pro-bowl equals popularity contest. Cowboys are one of the most popular teams.

He means the fact that Mickey is second when the general consensus is we suck at the draft.

FinSaint 03-25-2015 03:06 PM

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It just illustrates how popular of a team the Saints have been under Loomis and SP.

I don't think one should really draw any meaningful connections from this to how the teams have drafted since both the Saints and the Cowboys have had their share of duds.

blackangold 03-25-2015 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 647776)
He means the fact that Mickey is second when the general consensus is we suck at the draft.

O I C.

Loomis and co had some great drafts early on, but the last 4 have been awful and this league is built upon drafting good talent. Hell, in 06 we drafted nothing but pro-bowl talent lol.

ScottF 03-25-2015 04:53 PM

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What it really means is that we find Pro Bowl talent somewhere other than the first round.
from 06 on: Bush, Meachem, Ellis, Jenkins, Robinson, Jordan, Ingram, Vaccaro, Cooks......what's that? One ProBowl in 10 years?

Euphoria 03-25-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647777)
It just illustrates how popular of a team the Saints have been under Loomis and SP.

I don't think one should really draw any meaningful connections from this to how the teams have drafted since both the Saints and the Cowboys have had their share of duds.

You're missing the point.

Shows you what the GM can do at finding PRO BOWL TALENT... Everyone has misses but when you pick them at the rate Loomis is doing loading up on picks and letting him do his job he is going to find more than the average bear.

Euphoria 03-25-2015 05:39 PM

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although I always believe you can make stats out to anything you want them to say...

FinSaint 03-25-2015 07:18 PM

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Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

Mr.Riaton 03-25-2015 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647850)
Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

FinSaint 03-25-2015 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 647854)
Good point, but he still drafted Evans and that's what this is all about.

True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

Mr.Riaton 03-25-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647862)
True, but I was just using Evans as a familiar example.

There are multiple Pro Bowl choices of the past, who should never have been selected based on their actual performances compared to their contemporaries.

Again, I'm not saying the assessment is wrong - only that the basis it's founded upon isn't valid IMO.

I agree with you to a degree. All I'm saying is the players that are picked because of popularity are the vets that have been there over and over so they're kinda grandfathered in so to speak. But I don't think there's any player that at one point in time didn't deserve to be there. I think that stat about Loomis is pretty valid,because every Saint that made the pro bowl under his drafting deserved to be there at one point in time.

Rugby Saint II 03-30-2015 06:26 PM

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Ummmmm............don't forget we suck at finding defensive talent. I sure hope that Ireland changes all that. :bng:

Danno 03-30-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 647850)
Pro Bowl voting just isn't a valid measuring device IMO - case and point Colston having never been voted in, but an injured Evans, in a down-year, makes the Pro Bowl simply on reputation.

Just arguing against the validity of this assessment.

As Riaton stated, the article designates a player that has made at least one or more pro-bowls.

99% of 1st time pro-bowlers deserved it.

The reptation vote is mostly for respected vets that have been their numerous times before.

Seer1 03-31-2015 10:04 PM

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Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?

Danno 04-01-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 648638)
Yeah, but did they make the pro bowl with the team that drafted'em?

Yes, it only includes picks drafted by Loomis.


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