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We all think that Pathon is a pretty good third WR, right?

I just noticed that Boo had only one fewer catches (32 to 34) than Pathon and one more TD (2 to 1) this year.

Maybe Boo wasn't as bad as we thought? Certainly he wasn't spectacular, but may not as bad as he has been made to sound?

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:doh:
34-32=2 Sorry, couldn\'t resist!!

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My bad LB, I must have mistyped it, since Boo had 33 catches and Pathon had 34 (at least according to NFL.com).

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No problem, JK. Just having a little fun, and being my typical smart-a$$ self. I knew it was probably a typo.

Boo seems to be a work-in-progress. A couple of years ago I thought he was going to turn into an all-pro tight end. Now I am beginning to wonder, but I wouldn\'t be surprised if he did put it all together some day. Maybe if he had a QB that threw more catchable balls....(j/k, just trying to yank a few chains)

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No worries LB.

I don\'t have time right now, but it would be interesting to compare Boo\'s stats to some of the other starters across the league. Clearly, there will be some that are noticeably better, but I\'m wondering if 30+ catches isn\'t pretty good for a TE?

Of course, it is even harder to get \"thrown to\" stats, but that would be interesting too.

If anyone knows where to find such things, I\'ll happily do the research tomorrow.

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Boo Williams had one good year, which was the second half of the season last year. Remember he was a wide receiver coming into the league then coverted into a tight end. I think the \"potential\" is there, but he just hasn\'t put it all together like so many other of the Saints players. I honestly feel if he doesn\'t put it together this season after showing flashes, we need to move on and give someone else a chance. I really want to see this Zach Hilton guy play some. Very tall, big and he has nice hands. Our coaching staff needs to learn when to give up because we\'ve had so many projects on our team over there years and it\'s time to cut off some loose ends. I\'d give Boo this year to blow up or ship out. If he doesn\'t produce here, like so many former players, he\'ll likely enjoy and scenary change and produce elsewhere. Kind of make you sick watching talent leave, but since we(coaching staff) can\'t harness our players, it\'s our fault.

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I sound like a broken record talking about our O-line.

But, our O-line affected Boo\'s season?

Why?

Because Boo usually isn\'t the first option in the passing game. QBs go through a progression in their reads.

That progression takes a certain amount of time for the QB to make.

Simply put, our offensive line really didn\'t allow Brooks to go through his progression and Boo stats suffered.

I believe that\'s true for Stallworth and Pathon too.

Keep in mind that the number of completions by the receivers were inflated due to the fact that Brooks threw the ball more than any other QB in the NFL.

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JKool,

Since he doesn\'t really block, I figure that we might be better off to play him as a slot receiver next season. Or put him in motion to end up at slot next season. LB\'s are going to have a hard time covering him. I can\'t see how Pathon returns with his cap number.

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yea he needs to improve alot.....and stop dancin\' after two yard catches....drives me nuts

:dance:

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I don\'t think Boo was that great this year. I\'ll admit that he made some impressive catches. I also remember quite abit dropped catches (which he was supposed to have worked on in the offseason). He also needs to stop his complaining. I first noticed it at the Vikings game this year, he spent more time on the phone on the sideline complaining about the warmup music than he did warming up. He also begs for PI calls anytime he drops a catch during a game. He ain\'t Tony G, so until he can produce like a probowl TE don\'t expect for the zebras to even consider that.

Bottom line, I don\'t see anything to show that he improved. I do agree that he has to potential but he needs to work harder and stop complaining.

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Move him to slot receiver? Nah I don\'t think so. He\'s gained way too much weight when they converted him to a tight end. Remember he switched to TE also because he was a very slow receiver.

True our offensive line was horrible this year, but last year wasn\'t the case. We still haven\'t been able to utilize Stallworth, Williams, Conwell, or Pathon effectively this year or last. I say that McCarthy\'s contract expired at the perfect time. Conwell and Williams need to start producing to justify the contracts that they currently have. If not, we need to go to our cheaper alternatives because they certainly aren\'t earning that money. That money can be invested elsewhere because we have many glaring needs on our team.

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It seems we all agree on one thing: he should be given another year to prove himself. Whether it was the Oline or his undeveloped potential, he should be given another chance to prove himself.

BMG, I think that is an interesting idea. I think though papz may be right though - he\'s been groomed to be a TE. His blocking has improved noteably, so I see no reason to change his position (though I could see using him instead of Hall less often). I do like the idea of swinging him out occasionally - like an H-back - that would create some mismatches.

I\'ll continue to look for stats, but it seems to me his 30+ catches are pretty good for a TE in a rotation; so far, I haven\'t noted any TEs with more than 55 catches.

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I like Boo...always have, but I\'d like to see Hilton on the field more this pre-season. Let\'s see what he can do. Something about the kid that I like...

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In the case of one quarterback we know, that would be sometime in the 3rd quarter. :o :rollinglaugh:

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How often do those progressions involve someone behind him or call for an underhanded toss? Just wondering. I\'m just trying to learn from a guy who really understands the technical side of the game. :smile_bounce:

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I hope that Boo is a Saint going into next season, seems that he comes on strong towards the end of the season, seems to be improving little at a time.

LongTimeFan

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Boo can\'t block, and by the way....
Take Buddy D off your ID\'s
He wasn\'t that good

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Oh yeah and GBC if Boo wasn\'t the first two options in a pass play that tells me there is lack of confidence in him

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Boo Wiliams was a bigger disappointment than Deuce, Riley, Thomas, and Sullivan.

Its time to find yet another TE. Boo makes a decent back-up but is a long way from starter material.

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Danno, I know you\'re exaggerating so I\'ll leave it alone.

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Not by much.

On a list of underachieving disappointments in 2005, Boo is on a very short list with every player I listed. In my humble opinion.

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Actually, Riley and Sullivan by far are worse than Boo. Two fat lugs that just aren\'t discplined. Riley needs to go and Hilton needs to step up.

Yea we all do agree this is the year whether or not some players are going to be here the year after next. Get with the program or ship out. Bring in some winning blood and positive players to change the attitude of the team.

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WhoDat --

You are amusing, WhoDat. :P

But, I\'m just trying to share some insight here. I try to bring up things that aren\'t being discussed. Kind of a different view.

I think there\'s a lot of good insight about Boo in this thread. Except in your case!! ;) Please feel free to add \"something\" here. Don\'t be shy!!

JoeSam -- Good one. 3rd quarter, huh? Well, I just don\'t know what to say to that. I\'ll think of something, though..LMAO!!

P.S. -- I still say Horn is uaually always the 1st option in the passing game. As is most teams number 1 receiver. Some QB\'s have more time to go through their reads because the O-line allows them to. That makes the other options in the passing game more productive.

That doesn\'t necessarily mean Boo is the guy. But it certainly has something to do with it.

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I agree... he can\'t block and is inconsistent in catching and is very cocky, which is fine if ur good!!!