Picking talent or character

triman · 04-06-2015, 10:58 AM

D@D Dumb @ Dependant. Be dumb enough not to clean up before the combine or so dependant and not being able to stop. I get it . I know many very successful people that smoke weed. I just think that it shouldn't matter as as some think it does. Alcohol dependency is much worse in my opinion and it is not vilified the way smoking weed is.

voodooido · 04-06-2015, 01:09 PM

Not saying Gregory will be this good but remember Randy Moss and all the teams kicking themselves for passing on him?

RaginCajun83 · 04-06-2015, 01:51 PM

TALENT .... Honestly, I only care about what they do on Sundays on the football field. As long as they don't get arrested, I really don't care what they do in their free time or at home because if I had that kind of money, I'll be doing the same thing

Danno · 04-07-2015, 05:08 PM

I wasn't aware that it was either talent or character.

Rugby Saint II · 04-07-2015, 06:15 PM

Payton is cleaning up his locker room. I doubt he'll add any high profile troubled players. Maybe later in the draft but not early on.

foreverfan · 04-08-2015, 09:16 PM

Pick brain over stupidity.

jnormand · 04-09-2015, 10:51 AM

I'm in law enforcement. I don't think weed should be legalized. There's enough "legal" things out there without bringing in another one. That said, I also don't think its as bad as other drugs.

My deal here is this. If this kid knew a couple of years ago that he had the possibility of going pro and making money in the NFL and he chose to risk it by smoking dope, then he's an idiot. Its called priorities. Yes I expect kids to make mistakes, but if this kid has been positive more than once, then he's not accountable, not responsible and is not thinking about the impact it has on his future.

Pass. I'd rather spend a first round pick on a good character guy that wants to be a teamer. Not someone who puts their career and character in question because they can't put down the pipe.

blackangold · 04-09-2015, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I'm in law enforcement. I don't think weed should be legalized. There's enough "legal" things out there without bringing in another one. That said, I also don't think its as bad as other drugs.

My deal here is this. If this kid knew a couple of years ago that he had the possibility of going pro and making money in the NFL and he chose to risk it by smoking dope, then he's an idiot. Its called priorities. Yes I expect kids to make mistakes, but if this kid has been positive more than once, then he's not accountable, not responsible and is not thinking about the impact it has on his future.

Pass. I'd rather spend a first round pick on a good character guy that wants to be a teamer. Not someone who puts their career and character in question because they can't put down the pipe.

You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are a law enforcer not a law creator.

I find it odd Law Enforcement seems to be opposed to legalizing it. Perhaps it creates job security by keeping it legal. If it was a regulated commodity like alcohol the illegal drug based operations which create violent crimes evaporate. The example is too akin to prohibition and bootlegging.

I won't go on further, but I am more than willing to debate anyone in the politics section.

Danno · 04-09-2015, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject.

I disagree, it probably gives him way more insight than you and me combined.

jnormand · 04-09-2015, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are a law enforcer not a law creator.

I find it odd Law Enforcement seems to be opposed to legalizing it. Perhaps it creates job security by keeping it legal. If it was a regulated commodity like alcohol the illegal drug based operations which create violent crimes evaporate. The example is too akin to prohibition and bootlegging.

I won't go on further, but I am more than willing to debate anyone in the politics section.

First off, there is far larger things to worry about than marijuana in LE. But that doesn't mean its ignored. So job security comes from many different and serious acts that mankind does to themselves and others.

Second, I'm not blasting anyone who believes it should be legalized. I have my reasons based on my experience in the last 14 years. And I'm sure you have your own reasons and opinions.

My deal is that the kid knew he had a combine coming up and he chose to put his draft status and career in question knowing he would be tested. That to me shows poor judgment and a lack of self discipline.

He has much more to lose and he chose to smoke dope.

I'm not saying he's a bad person, I'm saying he lacks good judgment.

If I had the chance to make millions living my dream, the last thing I would do is put it in danger by doing something that I know could put that in danger.

Pro marijuana or not, I don't see a logical argument for that choice.

If I had the chance to make millions and one of the stipulations was not to eat pizza, especially if I knew they had a pizza test, I wouldn't even go around a restaurant that served it. And I love pizza.

04-06-2015, 10:58 AM	#1
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Picking talent or character D@D Dumb @ Dependant. Be dumb enough not to clean up before the combine or so dependant and not being able to stop. I get it . I know many very successful people that smoke weed. I just think that it shouldn't matter as as some think it does. Alcohol dependency is much worse in my opinion and it is not vilified the way smoking weed is. Rugby Saint II and blackangold like this.
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04-06-2015, 01:09 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Picking talent or character Not saying Gregory will be this good but remember Randy Moss and all the teams kicking themselves for passing on him?
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04-06-2015, 01:51 PM	#3
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Picking talent or character TALENT .... Honestly, I only care about what they do on Sundays on the football field. As long as they don't get arrested, I really don't care what they do in their free time or at home because if I had that kind of money, I'll be doing the same thing

04-07-2015, 05:08 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Picking talent or character I wasn't aware that it was either talent or character.

04-07-2015, 06:15 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Picking talent or character Payton is cleaning up his locker room. I doubt he'll add any high profile troubled players. Maybe later in the draft but not early on. jnormand likes this.

04-08-2015, 09:16 PM	#6
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Picking talent or character Pick brain over stupidity. Crusader, darksoul35 and brees84 like this.

04-09-2015, 10:51 AM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,771	Re: Picking talent or character I'm in law enforcement. I don't think weed should be legalized. There's enough "legal" things out there without bringing in another one. That said, I also don't think its as bad as other drugs. My deal here is this. If this kid knew a couple of years ago that he had the possibility of going pro and making money in the NFL and he chose to risk it by smoking dope, then he's an idiot. Its called priorities. Yes I expect kids to make mistakes, but if this kid has been positive more than once, then he's not accountable, not responsible and is not thinking about the impact it has on his future. Pass. I'd rather spend a first round pick on a good character guy that wants to be a teamer. Not someone who puts their career and character in question because they can't put down the pipe. Beastmode and K Major like this.
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04-09-2015, 12:38 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Picking talent or character Originally Posted by jnormand I'm in law enforcement. I don't think weed should be legalized. There's enough "legal" things out there without bringing in another one. That said, I also don't think its as bad as other drugs. My deal here is this. If this kid knew a couple of years ago that he had the possibility of going pro and making money in the NFL and he chose to risk it by smoking dope, then he's an idiot. Its called priorities. Yes I expect kids to make mistakes, but if this kid has been positive more than once, then he's not accountable, not responsible and is not thinking about the impact it has on his future. Pass. I'd rather spend a first round pick on a good character guy that wants to be a teamer. Not someone who puts their career and character in question because they can't put down the pipe. You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are a law enforcer not a law creator. I find it odd Law Enforcement seems to be opposed to legalizing it. Perhaps it creates job security by keeping it legal. If it was a regulated commodity like alcohol the illegal drug based operations which create violent crimes evaporate. The example is too akin to prohibition and bootlegging. I won't go on further, but I am more than willing to debate anyone in the politics section.

04-09-2015, 05:41 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Picking talent or character Originally Posted by blackangold You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject. I disagree, it probably gives him way more insight than you and me combined. jnormand likes this.

04-09-2015, 11:25 PM	#10
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,771	Re: Picking talent or character Originally Posted by blackangold You being in Law Enforcement only biases you toward the subject. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you are a law enforcer not a law creator. I find it odd Law Enforcement seems to be opposed to legalizing it. Perhaps it creates job security by keeping it legal. If it was a regulated commodity like alcohol the illegal drug based operations which create violent crimes evaporate. The example is too akin to prohibition and bootlegging. I won't go on further, but I am more than willing to debate anyone in the politics section. First off, there is far larger things to worry about than marijuana in LE. But that doesn't mean its ignored. So job security comes from many different and serious acts that mankind does to themselves and others. Second, I'm not blasting anyone who believes it should be legalized. I have my reasons based on my experience in the last 14 years. And I'm sure you have your own reasons and opinions. My deal is that the kid knew he had a combine coming up and he chose to put his draft status and career in question knowing he would be tested. That to me shows poor judgment and a lack of self discipline. He has much more to lose and he chose to smoke dope. I'm not saying he's a bad person, I'm saying he lacks good judgment. If I had the chance to make millions living my dream, the last thing I would do is put it in danger by doing something that I know could put that in danger. Pro marijuana or not, I don't see a logical argument for that choice. If I had the chance to make millions and one of the stipulations was not to eat pizza, especially if I knew they had a pizza test, I wouldn't even go around a restaurant that served it. And I love pizza.
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