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FootballCEO 04-11-2015 11:23 AM

FBGP's 2015 Inside the War Room - Saints
 
FBGP’s 2015 NFL Draft Special: Inside the War Room – New Orleans Saints | FOOTBALL GAMEPLAN

Good afternoon B&G! Here's my inside the war room draft special for the Saints.

Enjoy!

Em

SmashMouth 04-11-2015 11:53 AM

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Not a bad set of picks...


blackangold 04-11-2015 12:05 PM

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No way Shane Ray makes it to 31, but outside of that it was a good looking draft.

K Major 04-11-2015 12:47 PM

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Brandon Scherff...1st rd selection.

I have zero problem with that one.

lee909 04-11-2015 12:57 PM

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Id be happy with that,though i think it would be Eli Harold or Owa Odighizuwa at 31. Could also do with a ILB too

Rugby Saint II 04-11-2015 02:17 PM

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What? No ILB'er? Two WR's?

lsutigerfan 04-11-2015 04:07 PM

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Overall I'd be pretty happy with this draft. Although the 2nd rounder if we go WR Id rather Nelson Agular, I'm not crazy about Montgomery. I also think an ILB is a must. Really want Stephone Anthony in the 2nd.

FootballCEO 04-11-2015 08:25 PM

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ILB seems to be the common theme here...you guys aren't excited about Ellerbe?

If not, then Kendricks/Anthony/Grant would be in play

SmashMouth 04-11-2015 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 649672)
ILB seems to be the common theme here...you guys aren't excited about Ellerbe?

If not, then Kendricks/Anthony/Grant would be in play

Not sure we'd want yet another Grant around here... Cie Grant, Charles Grant... all forgettable names.

RaginCajun83 04-11-2015 09:56 PM

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Love your work Emory but Jim Mora said it best:


RaginCajun83 04-11-2015 09:58 PM

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I'll play the game: 13- Scherff 31-Perryman

blackangold 04-12-2015 12:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 649672)
ILB seems to be the common theme here...you guys aren't excited about Ellerbe?

If not, then Kendricks/Anthony/Grant would be in play

I like Ellerbe, if he is healthy he will be a great addition. However, no one is really excited about Hawthorne lining up next to him. Hawthorne has been a disappointing player and now he is going to be the play caller out there...

Grabbing a good ILB should be a high priority for us, luckily that can be done in the 2nd round.

Saints needs:
OL
D-Line (NT)
ILB

RaginCajun83 04-12-2015 01:32 AM

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With Bunkley and Jenkins, I don't see NT a huge need

Needs:
OL
ILB
CB
OLB
WR

lee909 04-12-2015 02:01 AM

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Im worried about Jenkins
There was talk when he was drafted he could get lazy. I know he was injured last year but he didnt look half the player from the year before. Didnt he miss a meeting or a flight too.

SmashMouth 04-12-2015 03:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 649697)
With Bunkley and Jenkins, I don't see NT a huge need

Needs:
OL
ILB
CB
OLB
WR

Bunkley may not make the team..and Jenkins fell off of the map. We need a tough wide body to plug the middle in the worst way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 649699)
Im worried about Jenkins
There was talk when he was drafted he could get lazy. I know he was injured last year but he didnt look half the player from the year before. Didnt he miss a meeting or a flight too.

Not sure it's laziness ... but it's definitely something...

hagan714 04-12-2015 08:24 AM

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Not bad not bad at all. If the saints did pick Ray at 31 value is all i can say. But i would dread the outside run all season long. If they made the pick i would suspect a trade of Jr somewhere in the draft.

Ty i love the pick. took a hammering all season long in the media. less drops than Cooper but that seems to miss the mark to some. also Hogan is not an elite QB prospect at QB either. If he is there is round 3 he has to be on the board.

like you said not were you think they will go in the draft.

would like a pick or two in the middle of this defense at least rotation wise.

ILB Ellerbe i can not wait to see what he brings to the table in this defense. not being a big fan Rob i am hoping he is not to blame yet again for hanging players out to dry like the last year and half.

lee909 04-12-2015 11:39 AM

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The cost of Juniors contract would kill us in a trade
IMO he has this year to show who he is as he can be got rid of cheap next year

spkb25 04-12-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 649633)
Brandon Scherff...1st rd selection.

I have zero problem with that one.

I think we have to move up for him

RaginCajun83 04-12-2015 07:55 PM

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Then Id be fine with Collins at 13 just don't trade up

rezburna 04-13-2015 01:14 AM

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I wonder if we could trade back from 13 and pick up Randy Gregory, then snatch up Bernardrick McKinney. We could pick up an extra 2nd or another 3rd by moving down. Even more flexibility to feel needs with young talent on cheap contracts.

jeanpierre 04-13-2015 06:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 649672)
ILB seems to be the common theme here...you guys aren't excited about Ellerbe?

If not, then Kendricks/Anthony/Grant would be in play

There's alot of uncertainty there EM...

The guy just missed a season because of a bum hip...

Other than spurts by Ramon Humber, you've got nothing proven at ILBer...

We really need to draft two ILBer, we've never developed a LBer during Payton era with Joe Vitt in charge of LBers...

Maybe Ryan can remedy this glaring weakness...

RaginCajun83 04-13-2015 08:50 AM

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a26b1ff82e.jpg

...... that the Saints select Perryman at 31, IMO #1 ILB in this draft

sfruge26 04-13-2015 10:22 AM

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I don't see how people aren't calling DE a need also...Its glaring to me. The whole front 7 needed an upgrade before FA, and we still need:
ILB (D QB)

SOLB (Harralson is ok but old, Powell could be the answer, but....)

DE (I really can see Cam getting moved, which would make the need even greater)

DT (do we really want to rely on Bunkley again?)

WR (somewhat of a luxury, but unless Jones or Coleman are ready, we could use one of these guys. I feel we missed out last draft and should have double-dipped here)

Jmo

jeanpierre 04-16-2015 08:17 PM

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We have three defensive ends under contract that have played for us and some camp bodies...

For a 3-4 defense, you really should have four spots on a 53 man roster...

RaginCajun83 04-16-2015 09:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 649786)
I wonder if we could trade back from 13 and pick up Randy Gregory, then snatch up Bernardrick McKinney. We could pick up an extra 2nd or another 3rd by moving down. Even more flexibility to feel needs with young talent on cheap contracts.

Saints draft Gregory and I'm throwing my remote through my TV and setting it on fire

jeanpierre 04-16-2015 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 649786)
I wonder if we could trade back from 13 and pick up Randy Gregory, then snatch up Bernardrick McKinney.

You know what's the most common line in Bernardrick McKinney's scouting reports?

Built like Tarzan, plays like Jane

Wish the guy well only if he goes to an AFC West Team...

But I'd hate to risk a high pick, especially with our proverbial window of opportunity closing, on a player that tentative...

His size and athleticism, he should be destroying people...

hagan714 04-18-2015 06:50 AM

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Bernardrick McKinney if you accept he is a two down ILB right now he is a pick. I am not buying into the hit like Jane so much as teams went out of there way not to run at him.

Multi pro bowls? nah i am not going that far but he could very easily be the safest pick of all the 34 LB this year. A player that is just solid, flexible and almost impossible to replace for years to come could be his calling card.

now if a team spends time with him and work on his pas rush moves. which he has very little off, he could turn into something special. A two down ILB that can slide to OLB on passing downs.

After watching him last year IMO the coverage skills knock against him is a little unjust. In zone he was in the area he was suppose to be in and never appeared to be lost. in fact i remember more than once he called the pass play correct before the snap. no sure if i blame him or the other players at the second level. Not like they were loaded back there. their second level was loaded with athletes sure but as you research them questionable instincts and football IQ is a common theme. I believe some of this has unfairly stuck to him.

I think he is getting less respect than he deserves this off season. He is not the media darling off the off season. If he is there at 44 i would be hard pressed not to take him. dependability is a strong calling card at ILB

I still think he has first round talent in this draft and a team like the Colts might just take him. heck i would not be surprised to see the Pats grab him either

This draft is not loaded with game changers in the first round.

Drafting both Bernardrick McKinney and Stephone Anthony i could live with

I like most the other ILB but size worries me in a 34. mighty mice

Plus most of the
mighty mice racked up numbers facing spread offenses for a majority of their games. That fact is a huge warning light with all of the mighty mice in the mix. proceed with extreme caution.

Eric Kendricks is the only one i would consider, his instincts and all around skill set is of the chart. even then i am tentative

So the only two ILB on my list in the the first three rounds are

Bernardrick McKinney - you know what you are getting with some solid upside to work with
Stephone Anthony - one of the top 5 upside picks in the draft without a doubt

need input from Paz here. he has picked more than his share of LB over the years with good success rate

jeanpierre 04-18-2015 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 650336)
Bernardrick McKinney if you accept he is a two down ILB right now he is a pick. I am not buying into the hit like Jane so much as teams went out of there way not to run at him....This draft is not loaded with game changers in the first round.

Drafting both Bernardrick McKinney and Stephone Anthony i could live with

I like most the other ILB but size worries me in a 34. mighty mice

Plus most of the
mighty mice racked up numbers facing spread offenses for a majority of their games. That fact is a huge warning light with all of the mighty mice in the mix. proceed with extreme caution.

Eric Kendricks is the only one i would consider, his instincts and all around skill set is of the chart. even then i am tentative

So the only two ILB on my list in the the first three rounds are

Bernardrick McKinney - you know what you are getting with some solid upside to work with
Stephone Anthony - one of the top 5 upside picks in the draft without a doubt

...

One of the kids I grew up with moved to Biloxi with his family just after he graduated high school; his mother was from there; he's a big Miss St fan/alum...

Don't know a game he doesn't post commentary on FB...

When we started discussing the NFL draft and I mentioned how I'd love for the Saints to have a great big monster in the middle like McKinney, he says...

BM will be like the Orange Bugs Bunny Monster - when you shave all the hair away, there's nothing there, he's still just a quarterback (recruited HS position)...

And when I asked him about the Tom/Jane comment, he says couldn't be more accurate...

hagan714 04-19-2015 09:46 AM

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hmm so he might be the next great dropping ILB of the draft?

jeanpierre 04-19-2015 11:20 AM

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Well, just before the offseason began, he was a first round pick as high as no. 13...

As the vetting has continued, he's certainly not...

And I just don't know how you turn on that switch...

QBREES9 04-29-2015 12:10 PM

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Fix the Defence.


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