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blackangold 05-06-2015 12:33 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 654529)

Every year the saints signed free agents and drafted players to replace him and put him back to his multi position backup role we signed him to be.

Well Scott had other plans. He beat all comers and stayed the starter
Not too sure how accurate that is.

Can't recall any OLB FA signings, nor do I remember the Saints drafting any decent LBs.

You could say Danny Clark was the one big FA signing but he replaced Fujita (and did a pretty good job).

blackangold 05-06-2015 12:35 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 654556)
Scott Shanle was a smart player. If he wasn't he wouldn't have even been on the field because his physical ability was sub par compared to the rest of the league. I always wanted us to upgrade his spot too, but I can't say anything bad about the guy. He did a good job.
I don't think he did a good job.

He was actually fairly bad, but his passion and football IQ shouldn't be questioned. Problem was his body could catch up to what his mind wanted.

rezburna 05-06-2015 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 654562)
I don't think he did a good job.

He was actually fairly bad, but his passion and football IQ shouldn't be questioned. Problem was his body could catch up to what his mind wanted.
98 tackles and 4 sacks his first year as a Saint.

69 tackles and 2 picks in the Super Bowl year. He was straight.

LordOfEntropy 05-06-2015 01:33 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 654561)
Not too sure how accurate that is.

Can't recall any OLB FA signings, nor do I remember the Saints drafting any decent LBs.

You could say Danny Clark was the one big FA signing but he replaced Fujita (and did a pretty good job).
Well, in all fairness I do remember a few LB's being taken in Shanle's time. I can remember Marvin Mitchell, Tez Wilson, Nate Bussey. Tez was a 3rd rounder, and his build could have had him challenging at WLB. I remember Arnoux too, but he was ILB if IIRC, so Arnoux wouldn't count for competition. But I also remember Cassilas (sp?) taking over at WLB some year (Shanle was a will, except for that one year - I think - when he moved to sam, again IIRC).

Bottom line was there was at least -some- competition for Shanle through the years. And he just stayed on.

I personally have pleasant memories of the guy. But he was he a magnet for a lot of unlove from fans.

blackangold 05-06-2015 06:32 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 654565)
98 tackles and 4 sacks his first year as a Saint.

69 tackles and 2 picks in the Super Bowl year. He was straight.
Stats are not a very good measure of a player's ability.

Statistically, his first year is the only one that sticks out as good. However, if we base everything on stats Lofton would be the best Saints LB to play the game and we know that's not the case.

blackangold 05-06-2015 06:36 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy (Post 654566)
Well, in all fairness I do remember a few LB's being taken in Shanle's time. I can remember Marvin Mitchell, Tez Wilson, Nate Bussey. Tez was a 3rd rounder, and his build could have had him challenging at WLB. I remember Arnoux too, but he was ILB if IIRC, so Arnoux wouldn't count for competition. But I also remember Cassilas (sp?) taking over at WLB some year (Shanle was a will, except for that one year - I think - when he moved to sam, again IIRC).

Bottom line was there was at least -some- competition for Shanle through the years. And he just stayed on.

I personally have pleasant memories of the guy. But he was he a magnet for a lot of unlove from fans.
Jonathan Casillas was the only actual competition and he was a UDFA, he was athletic enough but apparently didn't have the football IQ.

The rest of the folks you mentioned wouldn't really be fits for the WLB, Wilson was more of a SAM and the rest were MIKEs.

Again though, I am not trying to slam Shanle. I think he played to the best of his ability.

voodooido 05-06-2015 06:43 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 654516)
I miss the way Shanle would trot through the camera shot one second after the whistle.

That's all I miss about Scott Shanle. He may be a football genius, but he wasn't much of a football player.
Not much Football in Alaska huh? SS started for a superbowl winning defense but he "was not much of a football player". Give me 2009 SS over our lb's all day long right now.

RaginCajun83 05-06-2015 08:22 PM
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Sorry but getting half tackles for being the last player there does not make him a smart football player. He was abused and slow his entire time in New Orleans, sure he would make a play but that normally occurred when the opposing offense did something wrong or if the QB threw a pass behind the TE he was covering. Just because he played during the game doesn't matter, he had little to do with the victory in SB 44

The Dude 05-06-2015 10:38 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 654447)
scott was a hard worker and an extremely intelligent player. I respect his opinion
He was also a lot better than most people gave him credit for.

The Dude 05-06-2015 10:48 PM
Re: Former Saints LB Scott Shanle 'blown away' after working with Hau'oli Kikaha
 
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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 654624)
Sorry but getting half tackles for being the last player there does not make him a smart football player. He was abused and slow his entire time in New Orleans, sure he would make a play but that normally occurred when the opposing offense did something wrong or if the QB threw a pass behind the TE he was covering. Just because he played during the game doesn't matter, he had little to do with the victory in SB 44
He was ranked number 3 in the nfl right in front of ray Lewis the year we won the super bowl.
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