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papz 05-07-2015 01:41 PM

Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
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METAIRIE, La. -- Rob Ryan demanded the blame for the New Orleans Saints' defensive collapse last season in his first interviews since the 2014 season.

Ryan, who spoke during pre-draft shows on WWL radio and the Saints' website last week, also detailed some of the specific problem areas that need to be fixed for a unit that fell from fourth in the NFL in yards allowed in 2013 to 31st in 2014.

"Look no further than me because, No. 1, obviously we never got the job done on defense, and that falls on me," Ryan said. "The rest of it, we didn’t tackle near as well as we did the year before. I think we missed the least amount of tackles in a season, and last year we missed the most. That can’t happen. Our third-down defense wasn’t near as good, we weren’t getting off the field. You go from second in the league on third-down defense to however high we were last year, it wasn’t very good.

"So we have a lot of work to do. And we’ve got the right people here. We’ve got the right coaches here. And we’re gonna make sure it gets done."


Read more: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for New Orleans Saints' defense - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

Beastmode 05-07-2015 02:04 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
Giving up 50+ yards on multiple plays when you know it's coming. That alone costs us 2 games. All I know is this draft, he got a full bag of groceries. Cheese sandwich is not going to cut it.

hagan714 05-07-2015 02:09 PM

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"Look no further than me"

trust me i don't

Euphoria 05-07-2015 02:18 PM

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With the Safeties we have its beyond me that we don't deploy a Seattle type D. In fact with so much hype about a revamped D I was almost assured it was happening.

There box /diamond coverage is pretty awesome and could create havoc with safeties running it.

Mr.Riaton 05-07-2015 02:59 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
Third downs should have been first on that list. I dont think ive seen so many third and long conversions in one season in my life.

Rugby Saint II 05-07-2015 03:03 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
Let's start by cutting the ten yard cushion by corner backs.

Danno 05-07-2015 03:08 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 654768)
Third downs should have been first on that list. I dont think ive seen so many third and long conversions in one season in my life.

Worst 3rd down % in the NFL and nearly an NFL record

lumm0x 05-07-2015 03:27 PM

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I can forgive the late season debacles when we had practice squad people at 5 starter positions. I can't forgive the early out of the gate disaster we saw with full starters.

Saint in Aus 05-07-2015 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 654768)
Third downs should have been first on that list. I dont think ive seen so many third and long conversions in one season in my life.


Made me so mad!

Mr.Riaton 05-07-2015 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint in Aus (Post 654788)
Made me so mad!

I with you on that .I think that's what pissed me off more than anything with this defense last year. I swear I knew it was coming every f**kin time and there was nothing I could do to stop it! lol

whybag 05-07-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 654770)
Let's start by cutting the ten yard cushion by corner backs.

I thought everybody knew Keenan Lewis was a press corner, And he spent the entire year cushioned like a feather bed.

AlaskaSaints 05-08-2015 02:57 AM

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Oh, ****... I had forgotten all about our D.C....

Damn...

Mardigras9 05-08-2015 08:38 AM

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Total fail, he just sits at the top of the defensive pyramid. Each problem on defense made every other problem worse. The whole thing has to be fixed and I like the moves that have been made.

SapperSaint 05-08-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 654803)
and there was nothing I could do to stop it! lol

You tried your best. That's all we can ask for.:apu:

Danno 05-08-2015 09:34 AM

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Quote:

"I know one thing, we’re gonna come out swinging together. The individual stuff is long gone."
Thats an interesting quote.

jnormand 05-08-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 654880)
first of all, lets just face the fact that losing experience on the defensive side of the ball came back to bite us in the anus! we lost our so called shut down db in j byrd due to injury, champ bailey prospect was a joke. you get rid of jenkins, harper, greer and others and hope our secondary would play lights out, please people stop please! what about our sorry ass offensive performance. the worst i saw in recent years! the countless turnovers, the countless 3 and outs, not scoring td's in the redzone and that's if they get in the redzone. im gonna keep saying this unless our offense improves it doesnt matter what we have on defense, they're eventually gonna get scored on. remember this formula:MORE OFFENSE LESS DEFENSE WIN GAMES!

Well the article is about the defense. So um...that's why we're all talking the defense.

Danno 05-08-2015 10:40 AM

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Yards per game
Offense- 1
Defense- 31

Points per game
Offense- 9
Defense- 28

Passing Yards per game
Offense- 3
Defense- 25

Rushing yards per game
Offense- 13
Defense- 29

3rd down Conversion %
Offense- 1
Defense- 31


4th down Conversion %
Offense- 10
Defense- 18

Number of drives per game
Offense- 28 (5th fewest drives in the league)
Defense- 3 (3rd fewest drives to defend)

Yards per drive
Offense- 2
Defense- 31

Starting field position
Offense- 28 (We had to go farther per drive than 27 other teams)
Defense- 31 (Only 1 other team had farther to go per drive)

3 and out %
Offense– 4
Defense- 32


Points per drive
Offense- 5
Defense- 31

TD’s per drive
Offense- 4
Defense- 31


Turnovers
Offense- 28th
Defense- 28th

Yards per pass
Offense- 26
Defense- 24

Yards per rush
Offense- 9
Defense- 31

1st downs per game
Offense- 1
Defense- 28

Penalties per game
Offense- 2
Defense- 16

Penalty yards per game
Offense- 3
Defense- 19

jnormand 05-08-2015 10:43 AM

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Danno, facts don't faze him. He'll just blow them off and make up reasons to support his own theories.

Danno 05-08-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 654884)
Danno, facts don't faze him. He'll just blow them off and make up reasons to support his own theories.

Oh I know, I have him on ignore.

I just posted it just in case anyone else actually began to believe any of that nonsense.

Mr.Riaton 05-08-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 654871)
You tried your best. That's all we can ask for.:apu:

Thanks man. I tried everything from yelling at the TV to slapping my wife around and nothing worked. And what made things worse, the slapping my wife around thing kinda backfired on me. I can't even keep Slap Yo Mama in the house anymore.

Mr.Riaton 05-08-2015 11:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 654885)
Oh I know, I have him on ignore.

I just posted it just in case anyone else actually began to believe any of that nonsense.

I really dont think you have to worry about people buying into his crap. I just wish people would stop responding to his post so I can get the full satisfaction of my ignore option.

aquaboogie 05-08-2015 08:26 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 654880)
first of all, lets just face the fact that losing experience on the defensive side of the ball came back to bite us in the anus! we lost our so called shut down db in j byrd due to injury, champ bailey prospect was a joke. you get rid of jenkins, harper, greer and others and hope our secondary would play lights out, please people stop please! what about our sorry ass offensive performance. the worst i saw in recent years! the countless turnovers, the countless 3 and outs, not scoring td's in the redzone and that's if they get in the redzone. im gonna keep saying this unless our offense improves it doesnt matter what we have on defense, they're eventually gonna get scored on. remember this formula:MORE OFFENSE LESS DEFENSE WIN GAMES!

Sorry offense??????
perhaps you might watch some film of Oakland or Jacksonville!
Our offense was very good even though we had O line injuries
If you think the offense has to improve and it doesn't matter what we have on defense you don't know much about football

ChrisXVI 05-08-2015 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 654895)
I really dont think you have to worry about people buying into his crap. I just wish people would stop responding to his post so I can get the full satisfaction of my ignore option.

Yeah, the "Ignore" option really should include when someone responds to that user. I have him on there but someone always responds to him and I see his post.

jnormand 05-08-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 654968)
Yeah, the "Ignore" option really should include when someone responds to that user. I have him on there but someone always responds to him and I see his post.

It was meeeeeeeew! Lmao!!

Mr.Riaton 05-08-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 654968)
Yeah, the "Ignore" option really should include when someone responds to that user. I have him on there but someone always responds to him and I see his post.

The worst part is even though I know I'm gonna be disappointed,I still read what he post through other people's responses! I think I'm just fascinated with the fact that that level of ignorance actually exist.

jeanpierre 05-09-2015 04:26 AM

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The Cleveland game laid out the blueprint for beating our Saints...

Pound the front seven by toting the rock, usually gashing Galette's side who ran himself out of plays trying to make a sack...

Blitz, stunt the middle while sitting in zone and wait for a Brees mistake which usually was in a force to Graham...

And then let your quarterback, even Brian f***ing Hoyer, be a hero on the final drive against the accommodating Saints defense...

lee909 05-09-2015 09:15 AM

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Tell you who im interested in watching this preseason.

Kyle Wilson,i know he struggled at times in New York but he is still young and has talent. I cant imagine that Rob didn't speak to Rex about him.
The camp battle at CB for the 3rd and 4th Cb should be very interesting

hagan714 05-09-2015 04:07 PM

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Kyle Wilson is a FA piece of toast for sure. but a change could be just what the doctor order

jeanpierre 05-09-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 655003)
Tell you who im interested in watching this preseason.

Kyle Wilson,i know he struggled at times in New York but he is still young and has talent. I cant imagine that Rob didn't speak to Rex about him.
The camp battle at CB for the 3rd and 4th Cb should be very interesting

Add Damian Swann to that list, for they will be the two key players competing for that key nickelback position...

Also looking forward to seeing what Delvin Breaux can bring to the table...

And did I mention we drafted PJ Willams, the former NCAA National Championship MVP who had three (3) interceptions in that game!

If CB isn't fixed now, it never will be...

K Major 05-09-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 655045)

Also looking forward to seeing what Delvin Breaux can bring to the table...

And did I mention we drafted PJ Willams, the former NCAA National Championship MVP who had three (3) interceptions in that game!

If CB isn't fixed now, it never will be...

With Dennis Allen in the mix, expect to see huge improvement at the corner position. As for Kenneth aka "PJ", I'm going on record & say that he will eventually become a solid starter and play maker for us. He approaches the game with a lot of aggression, has the skill set for press and is an amazing tackler. Outside of Anthony, selecting Williams was my 2nd favorite pick.

Physicality and swagger. Can't wait for training camp :bng:.

NonieT 05-09-2015 07:39 PM

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Anyone think all 9 draft picks make the roster? I do.

jeanpierre 05-10-2015 07:55 AM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
Between the veteran free agency additions, draft picks, and undrafted rookie free agents signed, it'll sure be tough for Outside Linebackers, Cornerbacks, Defensive Linemen and Safeties...

But Coach Payton has always enjoyed 'competition' as a healthy thing for any organization...

44Champs 05-11-2015 01:01 PM

Re: Rob Ryan on what went wrong for Saints' D: Himself, missed tackles, third downs
 
My captain obvious statement is that RR's gone after the season if our D finishes in the bottom half of the league

aquaboogie 05-13-2015 05:44 PM

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[QUOTE=teddybarexxx;655379]if you think that our offense looked like a superbowl caliber offense then you dont know anything about football. i can give you quite a few examples of games throughout this season that our offense sucked. i can start with our first home game vs. the vikings. scored 14 pts in the first what 6 minutes of the 1st qtr and dont score again till the last few minutes in the 4th, what about the cowboys game where in the first 3 qtrs we were next to nothing. shall i continue?[/QUo

Most NFL games are decided in the final minutes by 7 pts or less. The first Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, San Francisco games were lost because of the Defense at the end of the game. You are NOT going to score 45 every week in this league. If our Defense is 10th-15th with last years Offense were in playoffs with a chance to win it all. I will now join the others and put you on ignore


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