Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either

jeanpierre · 05-14-2015, 09:51 PM

The full-season suspension of Saints coach Sean Payton in 2012 suggests that Patriots coach Bill Belichick should have been disciplined in some way for his role in #DeflateGate. Based on the justification of Payton’s punishment, either Belichick knew about the scheme and should have stopped it or he didn’t know, should have known, and should have stopped it...

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spkb25 · 05-15-2015, 05:55 AM

So why was SP punished and not BB? Because the NFL was being sued for concussions and needed to send their sacrificial lamb to the slaughter. They're not being sued for underinflated balls.

saintsfan1976 · 05-15-2015, 07:47 AM

And we cannot change it.

And it's likely no punishment will ever match the level of unjustness levied by Heir Goodell upon the 2012 & 2013 & 2014 & 2015 New Orleans Saints franchise.

That said, I've chosen to move on knowing that one day, somehow, his holiness will crumble under his own ego and vindication will one day arrive in the form of another Lombardi Trophy hoisted from a float as it rolls through the French Quarter.

blackangold · 05-15-2015, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And we cannot change it.

And it's likely no punishment will ever match the level of unjustness levied by Heir Goodell upon the 2012 & 2013 & 2014 & 2015 New Orleans Saints franchise.

That said, I've chosen to move on knowing that one day, somehow, his holiness will crumble under his own ego and vindication will one day arrive in the form of another Lombardi Trophy hoisted from a float as it rolls through the French Quarter.

I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

saintsfan1976 · 05-15-2015, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

Because there was more to the story.

jeanpierre · 05-15-2015, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

ScottF · 05-16-2015, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

He appealed it. Not much else he could do.
Sean Payton Is Out For Season, Full Suspension Upheld After Appeal

No federal court would set precedent and overrule the NFL, or everyone suspended ever would sue

SmashMouth · 05-16-2015, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

He appealed it. Not much else he could do.
Sean Payton Is Out For Season, Full Suspension Upheld After Appeal

No federal court would set precedent and overrule the NFL, or everyone suspended ever would sue

Never seen any judiciary, particularly this latest batch of judges, ever back down from setting precedents.

Foot Stomper · 05-16-2015, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

This. Even if the NFL had had told them to clean up whatever was going on and came back later to find something was still happening there was no reason to take such a harsh penalty without fighting back. And I mean fighting back beyond the appeal.

saintsfan1976 · 05-15-2015, 07:49 AM

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either The full-season suspension of Saints coach Sean Payton in 2012 suggests that Patriots coach Bill Belichick should have been disciplined in some way for his role in #DeflateGate. Based on the justification of Payton’s punishment, either Belichick knew about the scheme and should have stopped it or he didn’t know, should have known, and should have stopped it... More... Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either \| ProFootballTalk

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either So why was SP punished and not BB? Because the NFL was being sued for concussions and needed to send their sacrificial lamb to the slaughter. They're not being sued for underinflated balls. saintsfan1976, SloMotion and Saint in Aus like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either And we cannot change it. And it's likely no punishment will ever match the level of unjustness levied by Heir Goodell upon the 2012 & 2013 & 2014 & 2015 New Orleans Saints franchise. That said, I've chosen to move on knowing that one day, somehow, his holiness will crumble under his own ego and vindication will one day arrive in the form of another Lombardi Trophy hoisted from a float as it rolls through the French Quarter. spkb25, OldMaid, SloMotion and 2 others like this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And we cannot change it. And it's likely no punishment will ever match the level of unjustness levied by Heir Goodell upon the 2012 & 2013 & 2014 & 2015 New Orleans Saints franchise. That said, I've chosen to move on knowing that one day, somehow, his holiness will crumble under his own ego and vindication will one day arrive in the form of another Lombardi Trophy hoisted from a float as it rolls through the French Quarter. I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves. Beastmode likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by blackangold I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves. Because there was more to the story. jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by blackangold I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by blackangold I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves. He appealed it. Not much else he could do. Sean Payton Is Out For Season, Full Suspension Upheld After Appeal No federal court would set precedent and overrule the NFL, or everyone suspended ever would sue

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by ScottF He appealed it. Not much else he could do. Sean Payton Is Out For Season, Full Suspension Upheld After Appeal No federal court would set precedent and overrule the NFL, or everyone suspended ever would sue Never seen any judiciary, particularly this latest batch of judges, ever back down from setting precedents. jeanpierre likes this.

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Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Exoneration of Belichick suggests Payton shouldn’t have been punished, either Originally Posted by blackangold I just don't understand why Payton, Loomis and Benson just took the punishments without fighting. I get they didn't have a union to back them up but Payton and Loomis could have filled a lawsuit against Roger and the NFL. Benson was completely silent on the issue. I just don't understand why they just took it lying down. At least the players stood up for themselves. This. Even if the NFL had had told them to clean up whatever was going on and came back later to find something was still happening there was no reason to take such a harsh penalty without fighting back. And I mean fighting back beyond the appeal.

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