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Marlboro Man 05-24-2015 07:20 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Might have been him and Stills getting together to go partying till the wee hours and not prepare properly.

voodooido 05-24-2015 08:43 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 656280)
PJ Williams has something to say about that nickel spot

I see some 3-2-6 sets. KV would be that LB/Safety. Love to see him play that key role he did as a rookie.

hagan714 05-25-2015 04:27 AM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
KV is just what he was advertized to be. hybrid CB/S. some even had him listed as a FS in the draft which still makes me chuckle. SS was a bit of a stretch. he is not a PURE safety at the NFL level. well not yet? He is quick like a cockroach (4.06 in 20 shuttle) but has absolutely no straight head speed also like a cockroach (4.63 in the 40). easy pickings when they make a run for it.

instincts that is what his game is all about. Rob screwed the pooch last year trying to make him a pure SS out him. he was thrown into the role which set him back big time. Sophomore slump? For who? Kenny or Rob? Rob should have known better. he is no sophomore. KV is not to blamed for poor coaching decisions that it took an entire season to adjust, once again. Rob will bang a square peg into a round hole all season long. KV was one of his victims. no hind sight involved here

he is, as was pointed out earlier, an add on player. moved him around and drive teams nuts. that is what he does best and getting under peoples skin to get them off their game.

Still KV has done little to prove he was worth that 15 pick in the first round and is in danger of becoming yet another player on defense that is not worth the price they paid during the Rob Era. though Rob may have saved himself in the first time in the draft this year.

If Rob stops screwing with the kid and lets him do what he does best, he can be an impact player year in and year out. also one of the most hated. which is not bad.

KV reminds me of Harper in so many ways.

44Champs 05-25-2015 07:00 AM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
I think the knee injury mentally affected kv more than anything. He lost that fearless, reckless style that defined him, probably because he was either protecting his knee or protecting himself in general.

Cruize 05-25-2015 08:15 AM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Concussions. Instead of playing the game with reckless abandon as he did as a rookie, he tried to adjust. I don't blame him. He would like to have a career and a normal life after football. That's not an easy thing to do. The NFL has legislated most of the hitting away from safeties. Now, he just has to tackle better and not be afraid. You can't be timid on the football field. Otherwise, it's time to move on to a new career.

Rugby Saint II 05-25-2015 02:35 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Rob didn't use him to his strengths which is not KV's fault.......still, he should have played and tackled better. Part of the problem I think was he got the big head.

Danno 05-25-2015 03:01 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
He sucked tackling and repeatedly blew assignments. That has nothing to do with Rob Ryan and everything to do with Kenny Vaccaro.

NonieT 05-25-2015 03:36 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656328)

KV reminds me of Harper in so many ways.

Not quite. KV can cover.

sfruge26 05-25-2015 10:17 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 656328)
KV is just what he was advertized to be. hybrid CB/S. some even had him listed as a FS in the draft which still makes me chuckle. SS was a bit of a stretch. he is not a PURE safety at the NFL level. well not yet? He is quick like a cockroach (4.06 in 20 shuttle) but has absolutely no straight head speed also like a cockroach (4.63 in the 40). easy pickings when they make a run for it.

instincts that is what his game is all about. Rob screwed the pooch last year trying to make him a pure SS out him. he was thrown into the role which set him back big time. Sophomore slump? For who? Kenny or Rob? Rob should have known better. he is no sophomore. KV is not to blamed for poor coaching decisions that it took an entire season to adjust, once again. Rob will bang a square peg into a round hole all season long. KV was one of his victims. no hind sight involved here

he is, as was pointed out earlier, an add on player. moved him around and drive teams nuts. that is what he does best and getting under peoples skin to get them off their game.

Still KV has done little to prove he was worth that 15 pick in the first round and is in danger of becoming yet another player on defense that is not worth the price they paid during the Rob Era. though Rob may have saved himself in the first time in the draft this year.

If Rob stops screwing with the kid and lets him do what he does best, he can be an impact player year in and year out. also one of the most hated. which is not bad.

KV reminds me of Harper in so many ways.


I agree it was a mistake to change KV's responsibilities, and it took far too long to correct the issue. I disagree that "Rob" has shown any kind of pattern, positive or negative, in the draft. Let alone, enough of a draft trend here to use the phrase "yet another player" or "Rob's Era" when referring to players drafted by the Saints.

K Major 05-25-2015 10:38 PM

Re: What happened to Vaccaro
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 656330)
I think the knee injury mentally affected kv more than anything. He lost that fearless, reckless style that defined him, probably because he was either protecting his knee or protecting himself in general.

What knee injury :confused:?? The only injuries KV has had thus far were concussions and the ankle. You must be confusing him with another player.


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