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WhoDat!656 06-16-2015 07:36 AM

TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Think about what it must be like, when your boss comes up to you at your job, the same job that you’ve been working at for the last 25 years since you were in your early 20’s, and tells you: “Hey, meet ‘such and such’. He’s the new guy, and I want you to train him”.

Now of course, you don’t want to do or say anything to make you boss unhappy or to jeopardize the job you currently have that’s paying for your rent, your bills, and the food you eat; so you simply say in response: “okay, sir / ma’am, no problem”.

Except there is a problem. A BIG problem.

That’s because ‘such and such’ is there to TAKE your job, as the person who was hired to REPLACE you.

Now take that scenario, and apply to to the one that 10th year Saints veteran Zach Strief is experiencing right now, and I think you’ll know exactly how he must feel at this moment, as the Saints head into mandatory Mini-Camp starting this Tuesday morning.

TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints RT Battle Could Be Epic

Danno 06-16-2015 08:12 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
The analogy is a bit flawed. Strief knows he's on the downside of his career and will be replaced over the next 2 or 3 seasons. He's gonna get paid one way or another.

He seems like the kind of man that would take pride in mentoring a young player that has all-pro potential.

Besides, you're really only out of a job when all 32 teams decide not to hire you.

saintsfan1976 06-16-2015 09:34 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Love Strief.

Reminds me of Stinchcomb (who also played his entire career with N.O.)

Did you know Stinch was a backup for 2 years? And Strief for 5 years?

Barring injury, Peat will be a back up this year and that's o.k.

TXGSP 06-16-2015 09:35 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Sounds more like what is happening in IT. Bring in someone that is cheaper, has less skill and have current staff train them so you can get fired/laid off.

Have had it happen at two jobs... Both jobs are still there it just took 2 guys in India to do what I did for less than what I made.

saintsfan1976 06-16-2015 09:39 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Sounds about right. If your skill essentially becomes a commodity, I'd learn a new skill.

dizzle88 06-16-2015 09:42 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 658048)
The analogy is a bit flawed. Strief knows he's on the downside of his career and will be replaced over the next 2 or 3 seasons. He's gonna get paid one way or another.

He seems like the kind of man that would take pride in mentoring a young player that has all-pro potential.

Besides, you're really only out of a job when all 32 teams decide not to hire you.

Agreed, I watched the interview he had with the Nola.com reporters and he seemed one of the more gracious athletes I've heard.

He let it be known that he wasn't backing down from the position, but if the coaches give the starting role to someone else then Strief will give that person all the knowledge he has to help them be successful.

That's a true team player.

ScottF 06-16-2015 11:27 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
I still feel that if Peat beats out Strief then the loser will be Lelito

Rugby Saint II 06-16-2015 02:02 PM

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"Tackle eligible." Be prepared to hear that a lot.

saintsfan1976 06-16-2015 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 658076)
"Tackle eligible." Be prepared to hear that a lot.

This.

ChrisXVI 06-16-2015 07:29 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Ugh I still hate the fact that we used the #13 pick on potentially a back-up right tackle.

Danno 06-16-2015 08:08 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 658105)
Ugh I still hate the fact that we used the #13 pick on potentially a back-up right tackle.

He won't be a back-up for long. He'll likely be a 10 year starter with multiple pro-bowls.

ChrisXVI 06-16-2015 08:17 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 658108)
He won't be a back-up for long. He'll likely be a 10 year starter with multiple pro-bowls.

We'll see.

Mr.Riaton 06-16-2015 08:30 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 658105)
Ugh I still hate the fact that we used the #13 pick on potentially a back-up right tackle.

Im sure Mickey and Sean felt he was probably the best player available at that pick for our team. If he turns out to be a great tackle, which I think he will, then he will be every bit worth the 1st round pick...even if he does sit for a year. Im glad we have a GM who thinks of the future of our team and doesn't just have a"right now" mentality.

saintsfan1976 06-16-2015 08:43 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 658109)
We'll see.

We haven't had a poor right tackle since.....?

ChrisXVI 06-16-2015 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658114)
We haven't had a poor right tackle since.....?

But that's the thing... Right tackles are a dime a dozen. Just find a failed left tackle and he'll be an ok right tackle. That's why I'm bummed we made a future investment in a right tackle with the #13 pick.

saintsfan1976 06-16-2015 08:51 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 658116)
But that's the thing... Right tackles are a dime a dozen. Just find a failed left tackle and he'll be an ok right tackle. That's why I'm bummed we made a future investment in a right tackle with the #13 pick.

Who did you like at 13?

hagan714 06-16-2015 08:58 PM

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the main knock om the kid is speed rush. even then it would appear some coaching should be able to deal with the issue.

secondary knock is second level blocking that is so key in zone blocking.

third knock is he has that southern California peace nick attitude. definitely will not be the next coming of Kyle Turley by any stretch of the imagination. So he is not a dancing bear from the woods but he is more of a dancing bear from the circus.

I can see his game day music having some Donovan in the mix.
They call me mellow yellow
(Quite rightly)

lets see what happens. these are the reasons why i do not expect him as a starter right off the bat.

i will give him a couple years to make me feel comfy about the pick.

QBREES9 06-16-2015 08:58 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
I have always like Zach for as long as he been with the Saints. Love Strief.

brees84 06-17-2015 01:05 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
From reports, Kikaha pretty much owned Peat with inside moves 2 days in a row.

dizzle88 06-17-2015 01:18 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 658176)
From reports, Kikaha pretty much owned Peat with inside moves 2 days in a row.

I tend to kinda like this report, it shows that Kikaha has moves in his arsenal, Peat just needs to learn to move his feet a little better.

Danno 06-17-2015 01:35 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 658176)
From reports, Kikaha pretty much owned Peat with inside moves 2 days in a row.

Once yesterday and twice today, according to reports.

I think thats good news because I think we can all agree that Peat has NFL skills, he just needs to develop a bit more.

There were bigger question marks about Kikaha's game translating to the pros.

To hear he's having success is very good news indeed, even if its against a fellow rookie.

brees84 06-17-2015 01:37 PM

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It will take some time...

ScottF 06-17-2015 04:01 PM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
He's only been beaten three times in three days?
sounds good to me

#itsonlyOTASjustrelax

homerj07 06-20-2015 08:56 AM

Re: TEACHER VS. STUDENT: Saints Right Tackle Battle Could Be Epic
 
It's the way of the sport. 32 is ancient for football


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