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jeanpierre 06-27-2015 05:15 PM

CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
NFL's Most Overrated: 32 teams, 32 players who are good -- not great
June 25, 2015 2:43 pm ET
Pete Prisco

New Orleans Saints
Safety Jairus Byrd: He missed time last season with an injury, but even before he went down he wasn't playing well. Can he bounce back? For the money he's being paid, the Saints better hope he can.


Source: NFL's Most Overrated: 32 teams, 32 players who are good -- not great - CBSSports.com

Other former Saints...

Carolina Panthers
Safety Roman Harper: He's still decent against the run, but he struggles in pass protection. That's not a good thing in a division with Matt Ryan, Drew Brees and now Jameis Winston.

Kansas City Chiefs
Guard Ben Grubbs: He was acquired in a trade from the Saints to improve the inside play. But based on what he did for the Saints last year, they are expecting a lot more. He really struggled in 2014 in front of Drew Brees.

dizzle88 06-27-2015 05:17 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
I don't think that was all Byrd's fault

It's hard to make plays when your lined up 40 yards from the line of scrimmage because your Defensive Coordinator is misusing a great player.

burningmetal 06-27-2015 05:41 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
I'll say that before he got hurt I wasn't noticing any real impact from Byrd, but it wasn't nearly enough games to make a final judgement. There was no doubting what kind of player he was before he came here, so I need to see a lot more before calling him overrated.

hagan714 06-27-2015 06:08 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Byrds contract i still have not wrapped my head around

but

given the supporting cast failure was never in doubt. Then there is Rob...enough said. The cast is much improved except at SS. so there is hope i can handle 75% of that contract.

Then there is the addition of DA. Dennis Allen could turn out to be the greatest signing of the off season.

ChrisXVI 06-27-2015 06:38 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 658803)
I don't think that was all Byrd's fault

It's hard to make plays when your lined up 40 yards from the line of scrimmage because your Defensive Coordinator is misusing a great player.

That's not misusing Byrd at all. That's what he is... A deep safety. The problem was that no-one underneath could cover worth s*** and Byrd couldn't make plays as effectively.

saintsfan1976 06-27-2015 06:39 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Prisco?

Really JP?

That dude is a bigger Saint hater than Brian Billick and Baldinger combined.

jeanpierre 06-27-2015 06:51 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 658819)
Prisco?

Really JP?

That dude is a bigger Saint hater than Brian Billick and Baldinger combined.

Today, thought I'd be just a straw stirring a cocktail...:bng:

But I agree that Grubbs was waaaay overrated...

One of Loomis' worst turd signings...

The Dude 06-27-2015 10:07 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
im pretty sure everyone knew he was a run stopper but sucked against the pass. I dont ever remember anyone claiming he was well rounded. He isnt over rated, hes just an average player. I cant remember anyone saying he was going to Carolina and really fill a need as a complete player.

Funny now they are all connected to the Saints.

Didnt Byrd have a pretty big play or interception in that first game against Atlanta? He went down shortly after.

st thomas 06-27-2015 10:28 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
How can u judge a guy that played so little. I were impressed with his leadership , it made the whole de backfield go to the pits of nfl lure. I think it could have gotten better if he don.t blow his knee.

jeanpierre 06-28-2015 03:05 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Byrd had a forced fumble in the ATL game, but he wasn't nearly the ball hawk that was sold as...

This looks like a contract vs impact opinion...

Danno 06-28-2015 09:27 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald:
Wide receiver A.J Green:
Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe:
Cornerback Brandon Carr:
Safety T.J. Ward:
Inside linebacker Brian Cushing:
Running back Frank Gore:
Center Mike Pouncey:
Wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson:
Left tackle Nate Solder:
Wide receiver Victor Cruz:
Left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson:
Middle linebacker Curtis Lofton:
Cornerback Byron Maxwell:
Tight end Heath Miller:
Tight end Vernon Davis:
Quarterback Russell Wilson:
Guard Logan Mankins:
Safety Dashon Goldson:

Those are some pretty good players he claims are over-rated.

saintsfan1976 06-28-2015 09:35 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
How is a 3 time pro bowler with 22 interceptions over-rated after 4 games?

brees84 06-28-2015 09:38 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Fitz, AJ Green? lol

And Heath Miller is great dependable TE.

blackangold 06-28-2015 10:03 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
before getting hurt Byrd lead the team in tackles, turn-overs and passes defended...

Don't buy the media BS, Byrd played as well as he could have considering the players around him and scheme he was put in.

Danno 06-28-2015 10:52 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 658854)
before getting hurt Byrd lead the team in tackles, turn-overs and passes defended...

Don't buy the media BS, Byrd played as well as he could have considering the players around him and scheme he was put in.

And now both have changed quite significantly.:cheers:

Rugby Saint II 06-28-2015 02:01 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 658854)
before getting hurt Byrd lead the team in tackles, turn-overs and passes defended...

Don't buy the media BS, Byrd played as well as he could have considering the players around him and scheme he was put in.

With the new players, coaches and schemes I think Byrd has a chance to make the probowl. He's done it before with Buffalo. I believe.

saintsfan1976 06-28-2015 06:43 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 658872)
With the new players, coaches and schemes I think Byrd has a chance to make the probowl. He's done it before with Buffalo. I believe.

Thrice.

RaginCajun83 06-28-2015 10:15 PM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Buffalo always had a good secondary when he was there, some teams just have strong position groups, I do believe he will bounce back to form with the additions made to the Def

burningmetal 06-29-2015 03:19 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 658843)
Wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald:
Wide receiver A.J Green:
Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe:
Cornerback Brandon Carr:
Safety T.J. Ward:
Inside linebacker Brian Cushing:
Running back Frank Gore:
Center Mike Pouncey:
Wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson:
Left tackle Nate Solder:
Wide receiver Victor Cruz:
Left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson:
Middle linebacker Curtis Lofton:
Cornerback Byron Maxwell:
Tight end Heath Miller:
Tight end Vernon Davis:
Quarterback Russell Wilson:
Guard Logan Mankins:
Safety Dashon Goldson:

Those are some pretty good players he claims are over-rated.

Some of those players are just old or coming off injury. Fitzgerald isn't overrated, he's getting freaking old. Same with Frank Gore.

I'm not a Victor Cruz fan, but before his injury he was quite productive, and now he's overrated?

Why is Cordarelle Patterson on this list? Everyone recognizes he's raw and unproven as a receiver but one of the more dangerous kick returners in the game. That's what he is right now. Who's over rating him?

Dwayne Bowe was good for a couple of seasons and then, for whatever reason, just went to crap. Kind of reminds me of another former LSU receiver in Michael Clayton with the quick rise and fall. Again, everyone recognizes that he isn't that good anymore, so how is he overrated?

This list is just terrible. People who don't know the meaning of certain terms or phrases should not use them to write articles. To be overrated, one must be rated, or thought of, more highly than what their production warrants. It's not hard. I agree with a couple players on the list but not nearly enough to off-set the others.

SmashMouth 06-29-2015 04:29 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Was he named to the all overpaid team as well?

jeanpierre 06-29-2015 06:09 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
His article definitely took a credibility hit by naming A.J. Green...

Totally agree that Russell Wilson should be on the list...

dizzle88 06-29-2015 06:41 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 658892)
His article definitely took a credibility hit by naming A.J. Green...

Totally agree that Russell Wilson should be on the list...

Agreed about Russell Wilson

People rave about him but its easy to play it safe when you have the #1 defense and top 5 rushing offense both on the same team.

Saint in Aus 06-29-2015 06:54 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
So many times during the season Wilson got bailed out on third and long with some freakish catch. Absolute bull****!

jeanpierre 06-29-2015 11:18 AM

Re: CBS: Jairus Byrd Named To All-OverRated Team
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus (Post 658895)
So many times during the season Wilson got bailed out on third and long with some freakish catch. Absolute bull****!

Or the defense offsetting Wilson's four interceptions in the NFC title game!

Brees is better than that woeful performance...


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