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dizzle88 07-11-2015 07:22 AM
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Pretty sure Anthony is already better than Hawthorne in pass coverage.

jeanpierre 07-11-2015 11:06 AM
Re: Saints’ David Hawthorne...Position Battle With Talented Rookie Brewing
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 659490)
Pretty sure Anthony is already better than Hawthorne in pass coverage.
If Anthony makes half his tackles, he's better than Hawthorne (period)...

It's apparent that Hawthorne's best days were behind him before Loomis signed him...

Rugby Saint II 07-12-2015 11:44 AM
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Hawthorne has an uphill battle. It does help that he is back playing his position.

QBREES9 07-12-2015 01:04 PM
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The best players play

|Mitch| 07-12-2015 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 659540)
The best players play
Is that who the fans think are the best players or who the coaches think are the best players? :doh:

jeanpierre 07-12-2015 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 659469)
If all goes well Hawthorne will be the ultimate utility LB by seasons end. playing where ever needed. huge plus. but i am betting we get half way there and he ends up back at his old spot.
Really like the first part of your post; what worries me is if their is a reluctance to play the rookies...

halloween 65 07-13-2015 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 659466)
Exactly...

Look, Jenkins had a very impressive Rookie season, especially without Bunkley rotating when Brodrick got hurt in 2013...

Last season, Jenkins started the off-season with a torn pectoral muscle; so, that and with film on him teams had an edge...

He'll come back this season strong and re-dedicated...

We do need to keep looking to draft, sign top flight Nose Tackles for the defense to remain respectable at a minimum...
That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson.

jeanpierre 07-13-2015 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 659593)
That was when a 4-3 was being played. If we go 3-4 and neither Bunkley or Jenkins hold ground while taking on double teams I think we would have to go back to a 4-3, I hope they can if not I would see if the 5th round pick at NT could, quick. I like Davidson.
Well, John Jenkins and Brodrick Bunkley will tell you they were facing double teams at the Nose Tackle...

The only reason why we weren't more in a true 3-4 is because Parys Haralson lacked top end speed and Junior Gallete lacked range to cover and discipline against the run...

Personnel has changed dramatically this offseason, so we should see what has been talked about the past two offseasons...

ScottF 07-18-2015 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 659540)
The best players play
and playing more 3-4 means we can rotate DT's more. Just get the freshest, most skilled players out there for each play, whether it's 3-4, 4-3, or nickel

Let's be honest- when we were running that 3 safety set we really just didn[t have much else


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