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WhoDat!656 08-02-2015 10:43 AM

A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
What a difference a year makes when it comes to hype and expectations on certain players.

For the New Orleans Saints it’s looking like the player that produced a lot of that hype and expectation is back to where he started a year ago.

Safety Jarius Byrd is currently on the Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list which is where he started at the Greenbriar in 2014.

It's Byrd Or Bust For The Saints Going Forward

jnormand 08-02-2015 12:50 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Ugh the thought of him being injured again makes me sick. I hope he comes back healthy this year and helps our secondary.

ChrisXVI 08-02-2015 01:00 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Definitely don't have a good feeling about this. Pierre Warren is such a natural ballhawk though and Kenny Phillips has taken reps with the ones in training camp so if Byrd is a lost cause at least we have some decent guys who can take his place.

44Champs 08-02-2015 01:44 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
It would be nice they gave us an explanation as to what he's dealing with - his back or his knee

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jeanpierre 08-02-2015 02:19 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Caught **** about criticism of this signing; and all I did was question the cap amount commitment vs Byrd's health history...

Bush/Vaccaro wasn't a bad tandem; but with a dearth of talent behind them with Pierre Warren, Vinnie Sunseri (who I freely admit has more upside than I originally gave him) and Sanford and a healthy Kenny Phillips; not to mention offseason speculation of moving Stanley Jean-Baptiste into a Kam Chancellor role or Damian Swann who many scouts felt he would make a fine strong safety - well, I could see Byrd expendable if it weren't for that albatross of a contract...

Cruize 08-02-2015 02:56 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Start Sunseri and soon we'll forget the others.

dizzle88 08-02-2015 03:00 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Never sign an injured played for 56 million.

hagan714 08-02-2015 03:06 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
The talent is there "IF" he has the supporting cast to free range. Still not sold on KV being a complementary piece to max out what ever return we can get for Byrd. No the CB are looking much better. but that is still needs to be seen at game time.

That contract???? I was never excited about. Talk about a huge "BUT" right out of the gate. Then to lug that huge BUT around for length of the deal. dam

ChrisXVI 08-02-2015 03:08 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
I'm convinced that Loomis was drunk off his ass or incredibly high for most of 2014. That draft was an abomination and the Byrd and Galette contracts were crazy.

Danno 08-02-2015 03:26 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Too early to tell. He didn't really cost us much at all last year (3.5 mill) and won't cost us much this year (5 mill). Its next year that the mega cap hits occur.

And I'd heard from Loomis's own mouth that they always have a bit of protection built into his contracts so its never as bad as it looks on the contract sites. He said they usually have several options if a high dollar player doesn't work out.

hagan714 08-02-2015 03:31 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
2016 10.9
2017 11.7
2018 looks to be the earliest time to bail if this stays south.
12.4 cap with 4.6 dead

The Dude 08-02-2015 06:23 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 661199)
I'm convinced that Loomis was drunk off his ass or incredibly high for most of 2014. That draft was an abomination and the Byrd and Galette contracts were crazy.

Maybe there is really something wrong with Bensons mental state. Rich people don't get rich by throwing away money. Loomis has thrown away a ton of money in the past two years. I would question how he feels these investments and decisions will pay off

spkb25 08-02-2015 06:26 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
This dude needs to get on the field already. Sick of this

jeanpierre 08-02-2015 06:44 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Maybe this is another example of Benson losing touch as he'd never have allowed these busted contracts to happen...

Guess winning a Superbowl buys you some extra cred with the boss...

QBREES9 08-02-2015 08:09 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
You can't make the club if your always in the tub.

halloween 65 08-02-2015 08:24 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
If Byrd gets healthy it will be fine. If Byrd doesn't and Phillips plays well it will be fine. If Phillips don't I'll be screaming for Warren over any other FS on the team. Warren is a natural.

triman 08-02-2015 08:37 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Byrd is questionable. If he doesn't produce at a pro bowl soon this will be Loomis's worst move ever and will be a salary cap disaster for the Saints limiting their ability to function in free agency.

44Champs 08-02-2015 10:07 PM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 661196)
Never sign an injured played for 56 million.

Then we wouldn't have signed Brees in 2006. $60M :)
But yes, I agree with you and even Brees was a HUGE gamble back then.

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WillSaints81 08-03-2015 02:45 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
When he's healthy he needs to stay on the bench so he can get eased back in, we cannot disrupt the chemistry.

hagan714 08-03-2015 05:28 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 661250)
When he's healthy he needs to stay on the bench so he can get eased back in, we cannot disrupt the chemistry.

Thank god it is almost a complete roll over at the second level.

dizzle88 08-03-2015 07:16 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 661240)
Then we wouldn't have signed Brees in 2006. $60M :)
But yes, I agree with you and even Brees was a HUGE gamble back then.

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Haha completely slipped my mind to be fair! Lol

I guess in 2006 we really didn't have anything to lose by signing him, we were fresh off a 3 win season so expectations weren't sky high

By underachieving on defense, all we are doing is wasting the years that Brees still has.

Rugby Saint II 08-04-2015 11:33 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
I still have faith in Byrd. He has the talent.....but it's hard to believe that we are counting on another injured player.

WillSaints81 08-05-2015 02:42 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
The biggest problem is him missing the start of camp again. A player simply will not play well without getting in sync first. Byrd is missing a crucial time with the saints because he has not gelled in one camp yet with the team.

ChrisXVI 08-05-2015 08:16 AM

Re: A WASTE OF MONEY? It's Byrd Or Bust For the Saints Going Forward
 
Another practice, another day there's no sighting of Byrd. Pessimism rising.


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