Biggest disappointments in camp so far
 

1. S Jairus Byrd - Byrd gets the top spot, as he's been relegated to the physically unable to perform list since Day 1. Sean Payton says Byrd will be back sooner than later, but he's been tight lipped about his injury. It was definitely strange to see Byrd on the PUP after he participated throughout the offseason. But what's even more worrisome is that Byrd just can't seem to find the field. And at $9 million per, that's a huge problem.

2. TE Josh Hill - Most assumed Hill would step into Jimmy Graham's former role and emerge as the Saints next superstar. Well, that hasn't happened. Not even close. Hill has missed the last four days of practice with an unspecified injury. But frankly, prior to that he had done little to impress.

At this point, he's little more than a solid backup. I think many of us were a little bullish on the youngster after last season, when five of his 14 receptions were touchdowns. There's a reason he was targeted just 20 times last season: he has trouble separating from more athletic defenders.

Hill will need to show he can be effective without someone like Graham drawing coverage away from his side. I have serious doubts at this point, but it's early yet.

There's no question he'll make this team, but if he's going to be anything more than a serviceable backup, he'll have to step up once he returns.

3. LG Tim Lelito - He may still win the job, but so far he's struggled, at times looking woefully overmatched. Guard is his natural position, but after spending last season at center it looks as if he needs time to re-adjust. He was held out of Friday's scrimmage for unspecified reasons, replaced by Senio Kelemete, who could provide some stiff competition moving forward.

I was high on Lelito heading into camp and still believe he can recover. He'll certainly be helped by the fact the rest of the line has been fantastic. Plus, on one side he has Terron Armstead, on the other, Max Unger; quite the bookends, I'd say.

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While I truly enjoy watching the young players play and fight for a job in preseason, my major disappointment is the regular season is not already here.

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Not sure if it qualifies for a disappointment, but I have yet to much at all about PJ Williams.

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Not having brought in a legitimate receiving threat to replace Graham will be much more of I big deal than people think. I'm fine he got traded, and am glad we addressed the line but we should have tried to get someone proven in the passing game. I also question the wisdom in trading him to a team we will have to beat to get to the Super Bowl for the next few years.

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Injured.

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And both guards have been getting their arses handed to them...

Akiem Hicks has reportedly been beating Jahri Evans in one-on-one drills as well...

That doesn't bode well for Sir Drew...

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Does it mean our defense is getting better.

Yea... Drew is screwed. :doh:

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Well the Josh Hill thing isn't a disappointment to me, really. I've made the point for about a year now that just because he caught a few touchdowns doesn't mean he's that good. He did little else, and should they make him a featured target he will be swallowed up. I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone.

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Well Jimmy was not always on the field with Josh unless I'm mistaken. Like, for run plays, Jimmy was on the sideline.

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It will be a different team than 2014. But isn't that a good thing?

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injuries are part of it. so i do not count then as a disappointment
In Byrd case i have more disappointment in the front office.

Hill is and never will be a Jimmy. Injured what can you do?

LG Tim Lelito now that concerns me.

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Anyone have any injury updates on PJ Williams?

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O line problems aren't a good thing... Or is it just that the D has improved that much?

I want a good season and we need all the elements O, D & Special Teams to be top notch and on the ball for that to happen.

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Biggest disappointment for me were the reports of sloppiness and penalties in camp, since this has been a problem and negative undercurrent for the team basically lurking in the background since 2012.

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Isn't Coleman taking all of Jimmy's routes split wide? That means Hill will block and catch short passes like a standard TE. He was never expected to be JG. Jahri getting beat is a worry.

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Hill's lack of production is disappointing.

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Another big disappointment for me is the team not going to a true 3-4, after drafting, acquiring John Jenkins, Stephone Anthony, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull (injured), Ronald Powerll and Dannell Ellerbe...

Really don't like putting our best four defensive linemen all on the field on the same time; would rather rotate and keep the big men fresh, reducing injury risk...

But I really liked the idea of jamming the lines, forcing running games outside and zone blitzing, unpredicatably, the oppositions' quarterbacks...

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With the upcoming season we are going to find out if Sean Payton has his so called swagger back... And if some how we can get back to that 2013 defense this year will tell it all really are we contenders r pretenders....

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My biggest disappointment with camp so far are all the debbie downers on here.

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Hey JP, not doubting you, but haven't read about Evans looking bad. Can you shoot a link? I had thought they said he was looking good...that's worrisome if not