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SmashMouth 08-15-2015 01:50 PM

Josh Morgan in, Jalen Saunders out in latest 53-player projection
 
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Linebacker (8)
In: Stephone Anthony, David Hawthorne, Ronald Powell, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull, Ramon Humber, Dannell Ellerbe, Parys Haralson
Out: Henry Coley, Jerry Franklin, Anthony Spencer, Marcus Pierce-Brewster
Analysis: Spencer vs. Haralson will be the veteran battle to watch. I'm giving the nod to Haralson this round. Spencer cost the team twice with neutral zone infractions Thursday night. He can't make those mistakes. Tull will eventually go on injured reserve, but he has to count toward the 53-man roster right now.
Secondary (9)
In: Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner, Delvin "Chip" Breaux, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Damian Swann, Jairus Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush, Vinnie Sunseri
Out: Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Terrence Frederick, Brian Dixon, Kenny Phillips, Jamarca Sanford, Pierre Warren, Travis Manning
Analysis: Swann's nice interception displayed why the Saints are higher on him than Williams through all of the practices and early offseason workouts. He has to clean up those penalties, though. Injuries are a major concern with this group after the Ravens game. The roster shake up alters if the wounded miss some playing time. I could see the Saints hanging on to Williams and then plop the rookie on IR.


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jnormand 08-15-2015 02:21 PM

Re: Josh Morgan in, Jalen Saunders out in latest 53-player projection
 
I think he's right about Spencer vs Haralson. I think only one of them makes the cut.

Boy idk about the WR. Everything I'm hearing from you guys is Snead is tearing it up. I would think he's making a serious case to get a roster spot vs going to PS.

Interesting battles all over.

Audiotom 08-15-2015 02:22 PM

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Saunders was the first time in a long time we has a return game

Please no

halloween 65 08-15-2015 02:27 PM

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I would keep Warren over Bush 6 days a week and twice on Sunday. I look for Spencer to make the 53 also. Dixon shows promise and our secondary has a little glass to some of them so he gets the last spot.

halloween 65 08-15-2015 04:04 PM

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Kikaha got schooled in the Ravens game but as far as tackling, hussle and no quit he has in him this guy stays healthy we have us a star.

Danno 08-15-2015 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 662950)
Kikaha got schooled in the Ravens game but as far as tackling, hussle and no quit he has in him this guy stays healthy we have us a star.

Keep in mind he's never had to cover, but on several occasions Thursday night looked pretty good doing it, and some other times not so much.

He's gonna get better.

halloween 65 08-15-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 662954)
Keep in mind he's never had to cover, but on several occasions Thursday night looked pretty good doing it, and some other times not so much.

He's gonna get better.

I got a good feeling about him.

K Major 08-15-2015 11:05 PM

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It sure would be nice to have tough choices at the LB position for a change.

hagan714 08-16-2015 07:24 AM

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Out: Anthony Spencer?

what preseason game did he watch? Two neutral zone infractions does not over shadow the poor play of the others

lost creditability right there IMO.

Cruize 08-16-2015 07:58 AM

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I doubt either makes it.

Danno 08-16-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 663050)
Out: Anthony Spencer?

what preseason game did he watch? Two neutral zone infractions does not over shadow the poor play of the others

lost creditability right there IMO.

Agree. And one of those was pretty tickey tack. He looked to be over about 1 inch.
He looked like our best defender

ChrisXVI 08-16-2015 08:29 AM

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I'd like to keep Josh Morgan... He's not particularly flashy but he can do the dirty work and block when needed. I don't think we have a single other WR who can block.

K Major 08-16-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 663061)
Agree. And one of those was pretty tickey tack. He looked to be over about 1 inch.
He looked like our best defender

+2. Aside from the false start, he was solid. Spencer is far away from cut material.

voodooido 08-16-2015 08:47 PM

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Vinnie Sunseri had a butt load of coverage mistakes starting last week. I would hope he is on the way out. We have a ton of safeties and a few that can play corner also. I think Phillips will stay for now because of his ablilty to play both. Spencer caused havoc when in the game. I believe he stays also.

SmashMouth 08-16-2015 09:02 PM

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Sunseri and Warren are guys we need to keep developing.

MarchingOn 08-16-2015 10:12 PM

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Why are people inking Hawthorne in again as a starting ILB? He should not even make the roster. Just like last year, he over-runs plays and/or does something (actually, doesn't do something) that allows runs right up the middle where he's supposed to be.

Using just 1 play as evidence: see 2nd Quarter, 7:11 mins and watch him make a bad read and take a false step to the left then fall away to the right completely....way....out of the play. Literally didn't lay a finger on a RB running right at him

Was part of the problem in the middle last year (along w/ Butler making most his tackles well downfield and w/ our interior DL). Please cut this guy whether we give LB Coley a chance or not.

MarchingOn 08-16-2015 10:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 662936)
Linebacker (8)
In: Stephone Anthony, David Hawthorne, Ronald Powell, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull, Ramon Humber, Dannell Ellerbe, Parys Haralson
Out: Henry Coley, Jerry Franklin, Anthony Spencer, Marcus Pierce-Brewster
Analysis: Spencer vs. Haralson will be the veteran battle to watch. I'm giving the nod to Haralson this round. Spencer cost the team twice with neutral zone infractions Thursday night. He can't make those mistakes. Tull will eventually go on injured reserve, but he has to count toward the 53-man roster right now.
Secondary (9)
In: Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner, Delvin "Chip" Breaux, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Damian Swann, Jairus Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush, Vinnie Sunseri
Out: Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Terrence Frederick, Brian Dixon, Kenny Phillips, Jamarca Sanford, Pierre Warren, Travis Manning
Analysis: Swann's nice interception displayed why the Saints are higher on him than Williams through all of the practices and early offseason workouts. He has to clean up those penalties, though. Injuries are a major concern with this group after the Ravens game. The roster shake up alters if the wounded miss some playing time. I could see the Saints hanging on to Williams and then plop the rookie on IR.


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I'd keep Spencer. I looked up #99 to see who was getting penetration a couple times and he was often in the play. Looked big and powerful. Penalties will get cleaned up or he can be cut during the season. Coley: practice squad at min.

I looked up #37 to see who kept allowing WRs to get behind him on those 3rd/4th and long. Cut Federick. Liked the UDFA rookie in a pinch last year. We're too much better this year for him to make it. Cut #24 Wilson clearly. Roster spot for Swann.

MarchingOn 08-16-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 663062)
I'd like to keep Josh Morgan... He's not particularly flashy but he can do the dirty work and block when needed. I don't think we have a single other WR who can block.

In a way. But I looked up #13 Joe Morgan (Joe, right?) because he did a nice crack back block. Made a nice slant reception just prior, too.

ChrisXVI 08-16-2015 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 663132)
In a way. But I looked up #13 Joe Morgan (Joe, right?) because he did a nice crack back block. Made a nice slant reception just prior, too.

Yeah I kinda neglected Joe Morgan being a good blocker. I guess it's kinda a two way tie between the two Morgan's.

Rugby Saint II 08-18-2015 12:36 PM

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Saunders vs. Murphy for a roster spot I believe.

hagan714 08-22-2015 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarchingOn (Post 663129)
Why are people inking Hawthorne in again as a starting ILB? He should not even make the roster. Just like last year, he over-runs plays and/or does something (actually, doesn't do something) that allows runs right up the middle where he's supposed to be.

Using just 1 play as evidence: see 2nd Quarter, 7:11 mins and watch him make a bad read and take a false step to the left then fall away to the right completely....way....out of the play. Literally didn't lay a finger on a RB running right at him

Was part of the problem in the middle last year (along w/ Butler making most his tackles well downfield and w/ our interior DL). Please cut this guy whether we give LB Coley a chance or not.

I would love to like this but I just can not go that far. to date no one has played enough to get out of the line up nor do we have any LB that can play multi positions on this roster. Maybe by the end of the year i can can click like with it.

Needs out weigh quality of play at this time.

homerj07 08-22-2015 02:28 PM

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I don't think we keep Snead if we try to get him on the practice squad

QBREES9 08-22-2015 11:44 PM

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Can someone please tell me, what the saints see in Joe Morgan.

jeanpierre 08-23-2015 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 663904)
Can someone please tell me, what the saints see in Joe Morgan.

Speed.

QBREES9 08-23-2015 12:07 AM

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Speed kills, but you need to catch the ball.

dizzle88 08-23-2015 09:53 AM

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Both Morgans were a disappointment

We always hear Joe Morgan is working on running short routes but to me he doesn't have the concentration to catch a quick slant

Its like he tries to run before he watches the ball into his hands.

Josh Morgan made a great catch and then didn't secure the ball which then got knocked out, that was a huge turning point.


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