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ChrisXVI 08-15-2015 07:08 PM

Jahri Evans
 
Stick a fork in him, he's done. I thought the hand injury last season was a good reason for his regression but now he's still doing a very poor job. By all accounts he's been a turnstile everyday in training camp. What the heck do we do? Drew's gonna be murdered in the third preseason game when Jahri is lined up across from JJ Watt.

44Champs 08-15-2015 07:43 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
Unfortunately, you may be right. He had tons of penalties last year as well. That's what 10 years in the trenches will do to you.

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halloween 65 08-15-2015 08:25 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
He does look bad. If he's done ( which I think he probably is)who replaces him? We didn't draft a G.

vtiger72 08-15-2015 08:29 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
I thought he would have at least another year of solid play, but at 31, he's in the decline phase. If the NFL has taught us anything, it's that every player ages differently. Some will play well into mid thirties, but most begin a decline around age 30. For some it is gradual but others it's a steep drop. Regretfully, that appears to be the case for Jahri. We probably shouldn't be surprised. He plays a position that takes a beating and the Saints have run a lot of offensive plays in his tenure here. He makes too much to cut, but it is time to begin replacing the aging members of the line.

NOLA54 08-15-2015 08:52 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
If he's failing and makes too much, he must retire.

ChrisXVI 08-15-2015 08:59 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
But what does the team do about it? If it's this obvious that Jahri is a human turnstile other teams are gonna hammer the right side of our offensive line and it's gonna be a disaster. I mean, at what point do you put aside past accomplishments and ask a guy to step down??

vtiger72 08-15-2015 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 662994)
If he's failing and makes too much, he must retire.

Unfortunately, retiring his his decision and he may be too proud to walk away from that cash.

vtiger72 08-15-2015 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 662995)
But what does the team do about it? If it's this obvious that Jahri is a human turnstile other teams are gonna hammer the right side of our offensive line and it's gonna be a disaster. I mean, at what point do you put aside past accomplishments and ask a guy to step down??

The Saints have two choices within their control. Bench him or cut him.

If we cut him, we would save only 690k on the cap and carry dead money next year.

2 million of his next year's salary is guaranteed and he still has 4.8 million prorated cap charge on his signing bonus due to restructures.

He could be benched assuming there is someone on the roster better. That puts the cap charge on the bench.

I doubt he retires before this season and it is doubtful he retires before next without a catastrophic injury, but in that case, he still gets the guaranteed money and the Saints still take a cap hit. And even if he retires, the cap charge from the signing bonus already paid is still counted toward the cap throughout the duration of the contract.

ChrisXVI 08-15-2015 09:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vtiger72 (Post 663002)
Unfortunately, retiring his his decision and he may be too proud to walk away from that cash.

Of course he won't walk away from the money. So as pseudo-head coaches (which let's face it that's what we all are) how do we approach this situation? Senio Kelemete isn't perfect but he's the only in-house replacement we have. Any teams out there really hurting for a right guard that we can hoodwink and trade Jahri to??

spkb25 08-15-2015 09:37 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
if Peat makes more strides can we move zach inside or no?

ChrisXVI 08-15-2015 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 663008)
if Peat makes more strides can we move zach inside or no?

But Peat isn't gonna beat out Strief at right tackle. Even coach said when we drafted Peat that none of Armstead, Strief or Peat would be moving to guard. That's kinda why I'm still PO'd that we used the #13 pick on a backup right tackle.

spkb25 08-15-2015 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 663009)
But Peat isn't gonna beat out Strief at right tackle. Even coach said when we drafted Peat that none of Armstead, Strief or Peat would be moving to guard. That's kinda why I'm still PO'd that we used the #13 pick on a backup right tackle.

Yeah I know what he said, but I am sure if season is on the line they'll get the 5 best out there. I was hoping we would have got Mathis, this is concerning.

QBREES9 08-15-2015 10:49 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
He's 31. I hate to say it, but it just might be time.

spkb25 08-15-2015 11:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 663015)
He's 31. I hate to say it, but it just might be time.

sucks, was hoping he had one more good year in him, maybe he does

hagan714 08-16-2015 07:20 AM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
I am still more concerned about Litto

Cruize 08-16-2015 07:56 AM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
The Saints need to roll Drew some. Get him off the one spot and make the team less predictable. Everyone who has had success against Drew has done so with heavy pressure in his face. Unger will help with that some. Running more will help with that as well. But, a few rolls thrown in will keep the defense guessing even more.

vtiger72 08-16-2015 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 663055)
The Saints need to roll Drew some. Get him off the one spot and make the team less predictable. Everyone who has had success against Drew has done so with heavy pressure in his face. Unger will help with that some. Running more will help with that as well. But, a few rolls thrown in will keep the defense guessing even more.

I'm not sure Drew is a roll-out type passer. In addition the reason teams like to get heavy pressure in Drew's face is partially his height makes it challenging and secondly, no QB likes pressure in his face.

Drew has usually made teams pay when they try to bring extra pressure because he has a lightning quick release and amazing accuracy. But if the the guard play is so bad, teams get quick up the middle pressure without committing an extra man, it could be bad for Drew or any QB. Teams cannot really game plan for that.

burningmetal 08-16-2015 09:15 AM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
I suppose they could trade him for a snickers bar and place it where Jahri would have been. Perhaps the defender will see it, and will want to get away.

I see no legitimate reason to doubt this plan.

SmashMouth 08-16-2015 09:25 AM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
How much does Saints guard Jahri Evans have left in the tank?: Larry Holder's observations | NOLA.com

AllSaints 08-16-2015 12:42 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
Evans isn't what he use to be... The RT Peat pick still makes no sense at all to me... With the questions we have at Guard .....

Papa Voodoo 08-18-2015 01:33 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
Klemente and Lelito can both play guard.

Rugby Saint II 08-18-2015 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 663083)
Evans isn't what he use to be... The RT Peat pick still makes no sense at all to me... With the questions we have at Guard .....

I know right?:nuts:

jeanpierre 08-18-2015 04:23 PM

Re: Jahri Evans
 
If Evans falters, they'll probably move Peat in at guard...

He's been getting a lot of looks there during training camp...


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