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Pats starting to see the truth
None of us wants to even think of this anymore ... we had to deal with for years what RG did to the team, and pretty much alone. Im not trying to open old wounds.
But I think its important to know that the Pats fans are getting it now, and working to research the truth of it. Some say "to little to late" but if RG is to be removed fans of different teams need to work together. The Pats fans have always been pretty cool to us, and we share a common love for football. You only need to search their site for "bountygate" and youll finally see a fanbase thats sorry they did not pay attention. Takes a big man to admit that, and I for one will support them for it. What RG is doing to Brady is ridiculous. What he did to us was criminal. RG needs to be removed. PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum | New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard Quote:
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Yuuuuuuup!
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Many of us said that until Goodell railroaded some other team, no one would believe that Bountygate was something the league made up to cover for their lack of effort in preventing head injuries. No other team believed it could happen to them. Now that it's happening to a repeat Super Bowl winning team, suddenly everyone is afraid. They need to be. If Goodell remains unchecked, the Saints and the Pats won't be the last teams that are treated this way.
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Yeah... But I actually do think the Patriots cheat and don't want to be associated with them. I don't give a crap what their fans think.
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It is nice to see an outsider finally pointing out the obvious. With this Brady thing, though, I do think it's a lot about nothing... but I don't think the accusations are wrong. This whole thing has gotten way out of hand because the NFL, as usual, wants to look like they're in control and Brady just keeps lying.
He didn't want to show his phone, and then he destroyed it. I don't want to hear all the excuses as to why he might do that. This really doesn't compare to what the Saints went through. But in the NFL's effort to MAKE evidence after Brady refused to cooperate, people are getting a chance to see how petty the league can be. |
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I want to see the league record and make public ALL GAME BALL pressure readings (Pre-Game, Half-time, and Post-Game) taken during the upcoming season...
Will never happen... It could either further support or contradict the entire "Story" behind DeflateGate. THe NFL will never allow a contradicting story to all the "Evidence" they produced. |
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The leopard doesn't change his spots! ;p |
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Even Robert Craft couldn't buy his way out of this farce
Of course that's like you and I having to pick up a three drink beer tab I feel sorry for the hated Patriots this time This is a pure witch hunt nothing else Were they not supposed to bulldoze the Colts? Not spygate where a lot more evidence was buried |
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I don't know why we don't hear about this more:
The week after the SB the Pats said they inflated the balls to minimum pressure. They claimed that the cold caused the balls to become under inflated. Some group decided to do the same thing and found that at about the same temperature the balls lost "about" 2 psi. Sorry no link. Heard it on ESPN. |
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So, are we going to be those fans now ? and not look at the facts ? |
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We don't cheat. We massage the rules a little. The Patriots make a living off of cheating.
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I personally (as I pointed out earlier in this thread) think this is overblown, and I do believe that the NFL is making up "evidence". I do not, however, believe that the Patriots or Tom Brady are innocent. In looking at the facts, I see that Brady has refused to cooperate in any way. I see a guy bringing a rack of footballs into a bathroom (who does that?) and multiple teams reported under inflated footballs from the Patriots. Do I think it REALLY matters, as far as determining games? Not really. It's obviously a comfort thing, otherwise there's no reason to do it, but I don't think it's a huge deal. But instead of coming clean, they've been pitiful liars and Goodell hates teams that he perceives to be showing him up... We all know that. So now we have all this rhetoric flying around from the NFL, as they will do anything to make this bigger than it is and try to stick it to 'em. Both sides look really pathetic, in my opinion. |
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Pats know all to well what a crap whole the comish is long before this.
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"I know a lot of people are sick and tired of all the bounty talk and the bounty posts on here and the media talking about the bounty thing, and so on and so forth. The only thing i'm tired of is reading the same stuff over and over but i'm not going to do like some have suggested, forget about it and move on. The reason for this post is not to beat a dead horse. What i'm sick and tired of is the posts by opposing fans. Now I don't give a rip what opposing fans say because that's just smack talking sports fans and it's to be expected. But the "you guys got caught, take your medicine and move on" or "stop your whining you got caught" or "you got what you deserved because you were warned," etc. is really getting to me because I think opposing fans are missing something very important here. We got caught doing what every other team in the league has been doing for years. We didn't invent the pay for performance in 2009. If we're guilty of anything it's for lying, keeping such diligent records, and not stopping when we were told. So you opposing fans keep hurling your juvenile insults at us but here's what you are not taking into account. Goodel has unprecedented power now. He can pretty much do what he wants without recourse. If I were a Steelers fan or a Lions fan or maybe even a Ravens fan I would be very worried. You think $75000 fines for big hits or 2 game suspensions for stomping on an opponent are excessive. What do you think he's going to do now since he's shown he isn't afraid of suspending coaches and players for a full season with what so far is circumstantial, questionable evidence when he has full video shots of these big hits that we can ALL see unlike this so-called "overwhelming" evidence we have yet to see. Hmmm...Year long suspensions for unseen overwhelming evidence, who knows what for indisputable video evidence. Think about it." |
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I think everyone cheats. The bad cheaters get caught.
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For as long as the NFL has been around you would think they would have a real playbook for penalties and infractions that was concrete. They don't. Every time someone breaks rules or is suspected of wrongdoing there is the big fiasco or, maybe not...there is not much reasoning behind any of it. It almost feels like RG is pacing back and forth, what to do what to do....maybe I should do this or no, maybe that. It's a completely unprofessional and unorganized process. No other sport has a process like it.
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