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spkb25 08-23-2015 07:03 AM

Just quick notices
 
I have an official man crush on Swann... I really believe that he is going to be very good for us. I love how physically he plays, and he is always near the ball.

Kevin williams had a few plays last night that may have gone unnoticed because other people made the play, but he (even at 13 years) is better than what we have had the last few seasons. Have to watch his play count, but he could be huge help for us.

Hawthorne did much better in coverage last night. Khaka (I cant spell that) had a great game.

I loved ourr opening defense with both williams and jenkins in, very cool. Thought Jenkins had a quietly decent game

You may not have heard Anthony's name last night but he played great coverage against the ass.

swann, sjb, are our future, I think. Swann starts by end of this year or next season

Cruize 08-23-2015 07:37 AM

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Brees looked great.
Ingram and Robinson are ready.
Cooks has superstar skills..
The OLine did really well.
Snead is for real.
Coleman is still a work in progress.
Toon is done.

Run defense was good.
Kikaha improved from week 1. Looks the part.
Pass rush is still not good.
SJB, Swann and Wilson played well.
Safety play has been unimpressive. Although Warren just makes plays.

Kickers don't make me feel confident. Of course, they never have.
No injuries. Amen.

MatthewT 08-23-2015 07:42 AM

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Very impressed the way the defense played last night, love the new linebackers, and the secondary was pretty awesome! Considering that the entire secondary last night was 2nd string players made it even more impressive. What may be an issue is the way the defense played during the second half, that could be an indication that the Saints are not very deep in some areas, especially when it comes to guys who can get pressure on the QB.

spkb25 08-23-2015 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 663932)
Brees looked great.
Ingram and Robinson are ready.
Cooks has superstar skills..
The OLine did really well.
Snead is for real.
Coleman is still a work in progress.
Toon is done.

Run defense was good.
Kikaha improved from week 1. Looks the part.
Pass rush is still not good.
SJB, Swann and Wilson played well.
Safety play has been unimpressive. Although Warren just makes plays.

Kickers don't make me feel confident. Of course, they never have.
No injuries. Amen.

i forgot toon played for us

spkb25 08-23-2015 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 663932)
Brees looked great.
Ingram and Robinson are ready.
Cooks has superstar skills..
The OLine did really well.
Snead is for real.
Coleman is still a work in progress.
Toon is done.

Run defense was good.
Kikaha improved from week 1. Looks the part.
Pass rush is still not good.
SJB, Swann and Wilson played well.
Safety play has been unimpressive. Although Warren just makes plays.

Kickers don't make me feel confident. Of course, they never have.
No injuries. Amen.


kickers, huh???? we actually have one with a big leg

saintsfan1976 08-23-2015 07:54 AM

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Front seven played much better. Happy and Spencer looked sharp. Hawthorne even looked better.

No Gronk, no Edleman. I think the backup secondary did what they were supposed to do.

Richardson and Davison are impressive.

Cooks is our #1 receiver. Colston didn't look sharp. I want to see more from Coleman.

WR 4 is still wide open.

brees84 08-23-2015 08:05 AM

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Pierre Warren is excellent tackler. Love this kid. It would be stupid if he doesn't make the team (again).

Crusader 08-23-2015 08:10 AM

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I focused on watching big ol' #73 Jahri Evans as long as the ones were on the field. He looked really solid. Good push in the running game and anchoring good in the pass-pro. I especially liked how he got out on the early screen.

spkb25 08-23-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 663941)
I focused on watching big ol' #73 Jahri Evans as long as the ones were on the field. He looked really solid. Good push in the running game and anchoring good in the pass-pro. I especially liked how he got out on the early screen.

YEP, the one worry on the oline is lelito... I hope he continues to improve

homerj07 08-23-2015 08:18 AM

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How was Peat last night? Did he play much?

Danno 08-23-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 663944)
How was Peat last night? Did he play much?

He looked great at times, but had a couple WTFs as well. He looked like a rookie

K Major 08-23-2015 09:33 AM

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My quick thoughts from last night ...

Cooks - is a special player that could turn in to a freak.
Murphy - we all feel he may take it to the house on any given play.
Coleman - would like to see him more with the 1's next week.
Kikaha - he is a gamer and will improve every single day at practice. Once he polishes his technique.. watch out.
Swann - I like the swagger - unafraid to take chances & is physical, good tackler.
Colston - still shaking off the cobwebs but no doubt he will be fine.

Brees - next question.

dizzle88 08-23-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 663952)
My quick thoughts from last night ...

Cooks - is a special player that could turn in to a freak.
Murphy - we all feel he may take it to the house on any given play.
Coleman - would like to see him more with the 1's next week.
Kikaha - he is a gamer and will improve every single day at practice. Once he polishes his technique.. watch out.
Swann - I like the swagger - unafraid to take chances & is physical, good tackler.
Colston - still shaking off the cobwebs but no doubt he will be fine.

Brees - next question.

Agreed on all!

Kikaha really impressed me, he tackles very well and plays the run much better than I expected for a guy labelled as a pass rusher.

Many people said Swann wouldn't make the cut but he's definitely showing he deserves a spot, he's a physical corner, sometimes too much but that can be taught!

Murphy - like you said, any time he touches the ball people are holding their breath, the guy is so quick and looks like he could go the distance at any point!

hagan714 08-23-2015 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by homerj07 (Post 663944)
How was Peat last night? Did he play much?

Solid against bull rush.
A little better with a straight speed rush on the outside.

Swim moves and those other quick counter moves made him look pretty silly out there to be honest. once that big tall body gets from under those feet he looks like a skyscraper swaying during an earthquake trying to block the quickness. just takes too long for him to recover. maybe after last week he focusing too much on the true speed rush and set himself up for the counter moves a bit too much.

but he did not look as bad as he did in Baltimore. Too be honest he did not look that bad there either. upgrade from Harris without a doubt.

Run blocking at the first level was great. he pushed people all around

Run blocking at the second level was better but still needs work. he just seems slow to find his target at time. Looping his way to his assignment vs a more direct line. arriving a step or two too later to help the runner out.

All in all I say he showed improvement across the board but still needs some more coaching up.

baby stepping. :wink:

mighty12 08-23-2015 10:25 AM

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I will tack on some of what I saw

- Drew is back, word of his demise has been GREATLY exaggerated(by Peter King)
- Cooks would have been ROY if he hadn't broke his thumb last year(Can a WR win MVP honors)
- Run defense is solid, they just need to work on wrapping up. Blount was stuffed in the backfield on multiple occasions and slipped through for no gain or 1-2 yards.
- Defense is swarming to the ball. They looked like the Seattle team from 2013
- Ingram can catch!
- We have no depth(offense or defense)

mighty12 08-23-2015 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 663963)
Solid against bull rush.
A little better with a straight speed rush on the outside.

Swim moves and those other quick counter moves made him look pretty silly out there to be honest. once that big tall body gets from under those feet he looks like a skyscraper swaying during an earthquake trying to block the quickness. just takes too long for him to recover. maybe after last week he focusing too much on the true speed rush and set himself up for the counter moves a bit too much.

but he did not look as bad as he did in Baltimore. Too be honest he did not look that bad there either. upgrade from Harris without a doubt.

Run blocking at the first level was great. he pushed people all around

Run blocking at the second level was better but still needs work. he just seems slow to find his target at time. Looping his way to his assignment vs a more direct line. arriving a step or two too later to help the runner out.

All in all I say he showed improvement across the board but still needs some more coaching up.

baby stepping. :wink:

Sheard made him look more like an UDFA from Tennessee Tech than a 1st round coveted LT from Stanford. That counter move destroyed him. I thought I was watching Steph Curry play the 76ers.

SmashMouth 08-23-2015 11:27 AM

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CB Wilson looked decent as well. Gotta keep Pierre Warren.

Anyone miss Junior?

Danno 08-23-2015 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 663983)
CB Wilson looked decent as well. Gotta keep Pierre Warren.

Anyone miss Junior?

Agreed.

In fact, I think we might be a better fit as a base 4-3 defense now.
DE-Jordan
DT-Williams
DT-Jenkins (Davison)
DE-Hicks (Richardson)

WLB-Hawthorne (Ellerbe)
MLB-Anthony (Hawthorne)
SLB-Edebali (Kikaha)

spkb25 08-23-2015 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 663983)
CB Wilson looked decent as well. Gotta keep Pierre Warren.

Anyone miss Junior?

No, but truth be told I am jealous he is with such a professional org

Danno 08-23-2015 01:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 663991)
No, but truth be told I am jealous he is with such a professional org

Even without the sarcasm noted in your post, I got it!

nola_swammi 08-23-2015 03:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 663927)

swann, sjb, are our future, I think. Swann starts by end of this year or next season

It is quite possible he may start this season but only if the 2 of the first 3 db's or injured (browner, Breaux, and Lewis). Ian still observing SJB. I was surprised by Kyle Wilson but I think he might be traded or released before the 53 roster is complete

Crusader 08-23-2015 05:05 PM

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Edebali's motor is highly impressive. I love how relentless he is. Seeing him chase down a play 30 yards downfield after rushing the passer was great.

Peat's athletic ability is staggering. Once he takes over for Strief (2016 maybe) the Saints will have the two most athletic tackles in the league.

nola_swammi 08-23-2015 07:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 664038)
Edebali's motor is highly impressive. I love how relentless he is. Seeing him chase down a play 30 yards downfield after rushing the passer was great.

Peat's athletic ability is staggering. Once he takes over for Strief (2016 maybe) the Saints will have the two most athletic tackles in the league.

To go from having the two best guards (Jahari Evans & Carl Nicks)to the best two tackles is fantastic let's see what in Sean Payton's playbook

Lord_Saint83 08-23-2015 08:04 PM

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We gotta keep Warren and yes i have a man crush on him but the guy does good when on the field, he plays free safety as natural as Byrd does when healthy. Im afraid he won't make the team again though. I hear he is on the bubble again which is ashame because last year when he played he made plays. I think the brass is too high on Bush though I'm not, he will knock the piss outta ya but he is a strong safety playing free safety and sometimes looks like a fish out of water. I hope the coaches get it right this year and keep him.

voodooido 08-23-2015 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 663927)
I have an official man crush on Swann... I really believe that he is going to be very good for us. I love how physically he plays, and he is always near the ball.

Kevin williams had a few plays last night that may have gone unnoticed because other people made the play, but he (even at 13 years) is better than what we have had the last few seasons. Have to watch his play count, but he could be huge help for us.

Hawthorne did much better in coverage last night. Khaka (I cant spell that) had a great game.

I loved ourr opening defense with both williams and jenkins in, very cool. Thought Jenkins had a quietly decent game

You may not have heard Anthony's name last night but he played great coverage against the ass.

swann, sjb, are our future, I think. Swann starts by end of this year or next season

SBJ looked horrible. I hope they don't keep him just because of where he was drafted. I would rather have David or Molden back than him. Dude is trash.

nola_swammi 08-23-2015 10:05 PM

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I like warren but my one knock on him is that he is not a solid tackler. His field awareness and ballhawk ability is exceptional. To keep him, who do we let go? Bush just signed his contract, can't see spending more dead money. Vinnie, he play strong safety and solid tackler.

It's gonna come down to how reliable Byrd to be able to suit up if they carry Warren IMHOP

nola_swammi 08-23-2015 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 664056)
SBJ looked horrible. I hope they don't keep him just because of where he was drafted. I would rather have David or Molden back than him. Dude is trash.

I know you joking, honestly you would want David?

jnormand 08-23-2015 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 664059)
I know you joking, honestly you would want David?

He must be being over dramatic. No one in their right mind would take Jason "Toast" David over anyone else. A watermelon with a helmet on could've done a better job than "Toast".

alleycat_126 08-23-2015 11:06 PM

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Peat looked better
This scheme helped kikaha ( who spells his name right) the most
Brees sharp.... fully healed means no excuses... I wouldn't play him again this preseason
McCown is done
Murphy, Snead are making this team offensively
Cooks is a number one
Wide Receivers look set Triple C's Joe Morgan, Jalen Saunders, and Snead.... Jones to the practice squad

Crusader 08-24-2015 06:12 AM

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I would like to see Griffin get a chance to play with the second lineup. Would give a better idea of where he stands compared tom McCown.

CharityMike 08-24-2015 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 664076)
I would like to see Griffin get a chance to play with the second lineup. Would give a better idea of where he stands compared tom McCown.

Agree. I am over seeing Mccown. We all know we are screwed if Brees goes down but Griffen is young and can still learn. Mccown is a journeyman with no upside.

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Danno 08-24-2015 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 664076)
I would like to see Griffin get a chance to play with the second lineup. Would give a better idea of where he stands compared tom McCown.

^^This^^

I also read that the Pats left a lot of their 1's and 2's in the game Saturday to help Garappolo's development and confidence since he'll be their starter for the 1st 4 games.

I'd like to see us do a little of that with Griffin in game 3.

Rugby Saint II 08-24-2015 01:22 PM

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Ryan still looks lost on the side line.


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