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arsaint 09-01-2015 03:46 PM

All too familiar???
 
This story and the fan comments sound all too familiar.

I think we rolled craps here...

Tension mounting with injured star safety Jairus Byrd, Bills - CBSSports.com

AsylumGuido 09-01-2015 03:53 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
No need to stress until the dice come to a stop. Chill.

73Saint 09-01-2015 04:01 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 665126)
No need to stress until the dice come to a stop. Chill.

Agreed. This could be no more than extra caution, so as to avoid a repeat of last year. He's already been off the practice field for two seasons now. So, training camp starts and he's still a little tweaky. Why not go ahead and let him heal completely. Gives a chance to let some other guys step up (You know we need the depth), and even if Byrd is behind by the time he's fully healed, well that's better than losing him outright, again.
Couple that with the cloak-and-dagger mentality of the preseason inury reports, and this is what you have...

saintsfan1976 09-01-2015 04:51 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
If he plays week one. And plays poorly for three games. And then gets re-injured....

Grab the pitchforks.

Rugby Saint II 09-01-2015 05:16 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 665126)
No need to stress until the dice come to a stop. Chill.

Like ice water.:p

AsylumGuido 09-01-2015 05:59 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 665138)
If he plays week one. And plays poorly for three games. And then gets re-injured....

Grab the pitchforks.

And if your neighbor sneaks in and craps on your birthday cake ...

skymike 09-01-2015 06:07 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
what in the hell are yall talking about?
pitchforks? poop on birthday cake?

skymike 09-01-2015 06:07 PM

Re: All too familiar???
 
maybe I wont be hanging out w/ yall this football season...; )

-- if i do, i wont eat the cake.

Cruize 09-01-2015 07:14 PM

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Not my money. But, at this point, they have to do everything in their power to get him healthy first. Then, maybe they can get some return on their money. The Saints have nothing to lose and atleast possibly something to gain by just allowing him to get healthy.

jeanpierre 09-02-2015 05:56 AM

Re: All too familiar???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 665138)
If he plays week one. And plays poorly for three games. And then gets re-injured....

Grab the pitchforks.

Yeah, that development of events wouldn't be pretty...

hagan714 09-02-2015 06:53 AM

Re: All too familiar???
 
we knew what we were getting. A top safety that has troubles staying on the field. that is why the contract shocked me.

saints need to accept Drew was the injury gift from the gods and lighting strikes twice every other generation and stop wasting money on these gambles.

homerj07 09-02-2015 08:57 AM

Re: All too familiar???
 
What a waste of time effort space and especially MONEY he has been so far!

st thomas 09-02-2015 09:42 AM

Re: All too familiar???
 
hopefully loomis has his money cap on and cutting millions off this debacle of a signing. no play no pay. at least restructure the darn contract.

AsylumGuido 09-02-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 665219)
we knew what we were getting. A top safety that has troubles staying on the field. that is why the contract shocked me.

saints need to accept Drew was the injury gift from the gods and lighting strikes twice every other generation and stop wasting money on these gambles.

I'm not sure what you are talking about with this statement. Before last season he was only inactive twice in his entire career.

2009 - Active for the first 14 games.
2010 - Active all 16 games.
2011 - Active all 16 games.
2012 - Active all 16 games.
2013 - Active for the final 11 games.

Boutte 09-02-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 665291)
I'm not sure what you are talking about with this statement. Before last season he was only inactive twice in his entire career.

2009 - Active for the first 14 games.
2010 - Active all 16 games.
2011 - Active all 16 games.
2012 - Active all 16 games.
2013 - Active for the final 11 games.

I just worry that the cumulative effect of the back injury the knee injury and the foot problems he's always battled could be too much. I hope not.

spkb25 09-02-2015 09:15 PM

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IDT you will ever see him play another game for us.. but maybee im wrong

AsylumGuido 09-03-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 665350)
I just worry that the cumulative effect of the back injury the knee injury and the foot problems he's always battled could be too much. I hope not.

Don't forget, the back issue was not an injury. It was a minor corrective procedure. He had too small of an opening in one of his backbones which would obviously cause pain and/or numbness at times. The very common procedure enlarged the opening thus eliminating all future issues.

The knee was a torn meniscus. I have had that procedure and it heals quickly (4-6 weeks) and is never an issue again, unlike ligament tears.

SaintsBro 09-03-2015 12:13 PM

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One thing's for sure -- IF Byrd were to retire and/or need to be cut (and of course that's a big IF), then Byrd's not playing for the Saints would lead to absolutely ridonkulous amounts of dead money spread out over the next two seasons, to go along with Junior's $17m, Graham's $9m, and Grubbs's $6m.

IF Byrd goes south, because of injury or any other reason, that's $47m in dead money over two seasons. That's more than Brees will be making.

I don't know of too many GMs on the other 31 teams who could get away with something like that. It will be hard for the Saints to be competitive, with that much dead money hanging around their necks. It will basically require an absolute 1000% batting average on draft picks, bargain trades, and undrafted walk-ons. No room to pay anyone lavishly at all.


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