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spkb25 09-05-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 665801)
I see nothing either. I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I doubt it.

im with you man, hoping to eat it

Lord_Saint83 09-05-2015 07:32 PM

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Ill eat some too but that lack of consistant 4-man pass rush scares the bejesus out of me. Any opposing qb will be like a hog in the fat house.

ScottF 09-05-2015 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 665781)
The Saints waived tight end Chris Manhertz, linebacker Jerry Franklin, offensive lineman Nick Becton and running back Edwin Baker

should all be back on PS
Franklin had 8 tackles Thursday, and I thought he had a shot after Haralson was cut

CharityMike 09-05-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 665804)
should all be back on PS
Franklin had 8 tackles Thursday, and I thought he had a shot after Haralon was cut

Agree. I thought he looked pretty good also. I have to think they gonna bring him back to the practice squad.

spkb25 09-05-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 665803)
Ill eat some too but that lack of consistant 4-man pass rush scares the bejesus out of me. Any opposing qb will be like a hog in the fat house.

no doubt, that's same here.

dizzle88 09-05-2015 07:38 PM

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A bit confused that we've given up on SJB pretty much straight away.

Shows how idiotic the pick was if they are willing to give up so quickly!

spkb25 09-05-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 665807)
A bit confused that we've given up on SJB pretty much straight away.

Shows how idiotic the pick was if they are willing to give up so quickly!

Yeah, agreed. I don't think he is there quite yet, I do think he could be next year. He's getting there...

halloween 65 09-05-2015 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 665809)
Yeah, agreed. I don't think he is there quite yet, I do think he could be next year. He's getting there...

I liked what I saw out of him concidering him being a project. Might lose out in 2 ways 1. Picking him in the 2nd round. 2. Cutting him in his second year and him turning into a stud for another team. He looked to have potential from what I saw.

nola_swammi 09-05-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 665792)
explain to me the love of Brian Dixon?

explain to me the hate of Warren?

explain to me giving up on SJB just one year after drafting him in the second, knowing he was a project?

Explain to me who is to shoulder the blame if this all goes south? Dennis Allen? Rob Ryan? Or both?

I am so stumped.

Brian Dixon or SJB? Brian is a better gunner & db. If I had to chose it will be Brian hands down

Warren have great instinct but overall he isn't reliable as the last line of defense, that's why I am satisfied with Kenny Phillip

SJB couldn't even make the active roster and seeing how he perform during preseason I can understand why

If you asking about the defense failing, then you have to point finger solely on Ryan, the only way Dennis is to blame if he bring division in the locker room

vtiger72 09-05-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 665775)
https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...06477555576832

He sucks but I'm still surprised. Who the heck is playing CB now??

This right here tells not only how bad he's been, but how bad the choice was. That a team would give up on a second rd pick just a year after drafting him is astonishing and shows they didn't have a good idea on his ability or ability to adapt.

A team with the cap issues the Saints have cannot afford to make these kind of draft mistakes.

ChrisXVI 09-05-2015 08:24 PM

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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Loomis was addicted to some kind of opiate during the 2014 offseason. There's no other reason why he could've made all of the awful decisions that he made.

jeanpierre 09-05-2015 08:53 PM

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Practice Squad should be interesting...

jeanpierre 09-05-2015 08:54 PM

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With only four (4) wide receivers and two (2) tight ends, I'll say this -

You had to EARN a roster spot to get your fleur-de-lis on your war helmet...


There wasn't any mailing it in, or competing in your position group...

voodooido 09-05-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 665783)
Things are shaking out kinda weird... 5 RB's, 4 WR's and 2 TE's.

6 Rb's, Johnson, Murphy, MI, Hightower, Robinson, Spiller

ChrisXVI 09-05-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 665820)
With only four (4) wide receivers and two (2) tight ends, I'll say this -

You had to EARN a roster spot to get your fleur-de-lis on your war helmet...

No kidding. This is the most confused I've been about our initial 53 man roster in a while.

On a side note, there's sonething that's bothering me that I have to bring up. What exactly is it that Payton sees that we don't when it comes to Pierre Warren?! We all see a potential star in the making. If another claims him off waivers I'm gonna be livid. I'd be ok with him being on our practice squad but if he's elsewhere on an active roster then that will suck to put it lightly.

saintsfan1976 09-05-2015 10:05 PM

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I don't care if it was round 7, drafting SJB was a mistake. He proved it. We finally admitted it.

Deep down we all knew it.

westbankdaze 09-05-2015 10:06 PM

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Joe Morgan cut

Boutte 09-05-2015 10:19 PM

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Strangest off season ever. (I'm including pre-season)

st thomas 09-05-2015 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 665782)
Well using a 2nd round on a project is not as bad as using a 13th pick on a tackle that can't beat the competition and start week one only be a reserve instead, fantastic.

this just takes the cake how can u fail at 13, its payton , scouts loomis and front office just blew there second draft to me.when I saw peat playing third team offense I wanted to just drop jaw.

st thomas 09-05-2015 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 665788)
But conventional thinking is, if your taken with the #13 pick, you should be expected to start.

thank yiu for mentioning that 13th pick in the draft you have to be penciled in no ifs ands or third string dam-it.

st thomas 09-05-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 665792)
explain to me the love of Brian Dixon?

explain to me the hate of Warren?

explain to me giving up on SJB just one year after drafting him in the second, knowing he was a project?

Explain to me who is to shoulder the blame if this all goes south? Dennis Allen? Rob Ryan? Or both?

I am so stumped.

no your just a fan, you and 300 others on this board want what u want.

st thomas 09-05-2015 11:20 PM

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just what if------- we are trading byrd & bush for chancellor would be nice to kill a turable contract and start a new one.

st thomas 09-05-2015 11:27 PM

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i'm being optimistic if klu elie ku ku ma goe. keeps that motor running as a special 3 and 13 that we never could get off the field last season, it won't happen this season he will not let the qb have that all day-night time as was before, he will tear into their asss .

vtiger72 09-06-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 665837)
just what if------- we are trading byrd & bush for chancellor would be nice to kill a turable contract and start a new one.

That wouldn't come close to getting Chancellor...and the Saints wouldn't have the cap space to give Chancellor the money he wants anyways.

Rumor is the price on Chancellor is a first in one draft, a second in another...and maybe a player as well.

CharityMike 09-06-2015 12:26 AM

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Nothing wrong with having hopes and dreams my friend.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

spkb25 09-06-2015 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 665825)
Joe Morgan cut

not surprised, was surprised when it came out he wasnt.

i want us to draft jayden smith from ND

spkb25 09-06-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 665833)
thank yiu for mentioning that 13th pick in the draft you have to be penciled in no ifs ands or third string dam-it.

That's simply not true when you have two great tackles on your team already. This happens often. I mean any running back selected in the first round, no matter where they're selected in the first round, should start. It doesn't always happen however...

My point is that just because someone sits because you already have two great starters currently on your roster is not a bad thing. It doesn't mean they will not have a great career.

Running back is the easiest position to transition from college to pro and any pick in first round should be starting, but sometimes it doesn't happen...is that a failed pick?

hagan714 09-06-2015 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 665812)
Brian Dixon or SJB? Brian is a better gunner & db. If I had to chose it will be Brian hands down

The issue with Dixon for me is he is fast and quick but he has below average reaction time and recognition skills. I have not seen an improvement this year over last. Thank God for recovery speed I guess:beer:

As for gunner skills once again he gets there in a flash but whiffs on the tackles. :beer:

Then again Kyle Wilson made the cut. He has to preform to keep Dixon off the field. That in itself is a big gamble. He was a favorite of QB in the AFC East to pick on for years. :beer:well here's to a change of venue thingy

After all the moves and picks I was hoping to feel better about the CB corp as a whole this year. Maybe I was over hoping a bit. :beer:

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 665812)
Warren have great instinct but overall he isn't reliable as the last line of defense, that's why I am satisfied with Kenny Phillip

Yet another injured veteran gamble vs a second year player that needs some more coaching. :beer:

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 665812)
SJB couldn't even make the active roster and seeing how he perform during preseason I can understand why

SJB? it is all about the second round project getting cut that is all. That was reach with a very long stick and an airplane ticket involved to get there. Allen Robinson was my pick:beer:

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 665812)
If you asking about the defense failing, then you have to point finger solely on Ryan, the only way Dennis is to blame if he bring division in the locker room

Rob is already..... I will wait and see :beer:

hammered before the season even starts. well that's a good thing

jeanpierre 09-06-2015 07:25 AM

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Any first rounder should be able to start or play very signicant playing time; am disappointed that Andrus Peat was out of shape coming into camp...

His size, mobility potential is there; but as an early, first round pick - you have to contribute immediately...

hagan714 09-06-2015 07:28 AM

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nope never bought into Peat being ready on day one.

maybe by mid season he can handle the back up job at RT

If the gods are on our side he will be ready to back up at LT by season end.

If we are so lucky and pray a lot he might push to be a starter in 2016.

The kid needs work that is all. probably could have traded down and still got him. Last years crop of true OT were not polished at all for round one.

Ereck Flowers who was pick ahead of him needs work also. his pass blocking is not that great either

The highest pick in the draft of the OL that seems to be making a push is Mitch Morse, Round 2 Pick 17 (49) by the Chiefs. All the others are having issues. Pat do love Cameron Erving so far

give him some time. I am not throwing Peat out on heap just yet. ;)

Evan Boehm, C/LOG, is the next Missouri tiger i will be watching for 2016.

Cruize 09-06-2015 08:27 AM

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-Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball.
-SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone.
-Every one else I understand.
-Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D.

Danno 09-06-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 665886)
-Warren seemed to be the best safety in preseason. Made plays and was always around the ball.
-SJB by ALL accounts was having a great camp and preseason. Has one bad game and pissed Payton off and he's gone.
-Every one else I understand.
-Dixon and Wilson have never looked good. If they're counting on them, it's going to be another bad year on D.

The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well.

He had a few good practices but that was it.

Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not.

SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising.

spkb25 09-06-2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 665881)
Any first rounder should be able to start or play very signicant playing time; am disappointed that Andrus Peat was out of shape coming into camp...

His size, mobility potential is there; but as an early, first round pick - you have to contribute immediately...

He started camp late due to his college... and he was mid first round...mot early. Early is like top 5 or 6

Deuce was pick 23 and he had less than 100 yards rushing his first season. I think that turned out fine.

Running back is a much easier transition, so the 10 spot difference is easily negligible.

The simple fact is it matters who is in front of you and for all of us to pretend it doesn't is not fair. Had he come in and the likes of Chuck Brown been his comp then I'd be highly upset, but with how things are I am not upset at all.

spkb25 09-06-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 665889)
The Warren cut is a head scratcher, but SJB had more than one bad game. He graded out our 2nd worst defender in the Pats game as well.

He had a few good practices but that was it.

Wilson was better than SJB, and Dixon players special teams which SJB did not.

SJB may be back on our practice squad, but I'm getting the feeling we have our eyes set on several other CBs that may be more promising.

I think SJB goes practice too, if soemone doesn't grab him

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-06-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 665786)
Strief is indeed a great tackle. That wasn't his point though... It was a waste of such a high pick.

Tackles can be productive for up to a dozen years. Just beacuse Peat isn't ready to be an All-Pro with his first game doesn't mean that the pick is a waste.

Frankly, anything the Saints could do to move Bryce Harris is productive.

Streif and Armstrong have both been in and out over the last two years. Even if Peat isn't ready to start, having a tackle with the fundamentals that can be put in without too much of a dropoff while he gets a redshirt year to learn the particulars of the position really isn't a bad idea. Let's not forget the guy is switching ends of the line from college. That isn't a switch that happens instantly.

The current construction of the Saints starts with the O-line. Watching Brees get beat up last year was painful. And quite a bit of that happened when Strief and Armstrong were not available. The addition of Unger, the insertion of Lelito, and addint Peat as a backup for now greatly improves Brees chances of staying off his back.

That works for me.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-06-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 665821)
6 Rb's, Johnson, Murphy, MI, Hightower, Robinson, Spiller

Two (Spiller,Robinson) are likely injured enough that they will not be seen for a week or two. It's likely that Hightower will be the odd man out once one or both get healthy enough to play.

SFIAH

Rell&Gold 09-06-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 665898)
Two (Spiller,Robinson) are likely injured enough that they will not be seen for a week or two. It's likely that Hightower will be the odd man out once one or both get healthy enough to play.

SFIAH

I see spiller maybe even Ingram but robinson had a broken forearm no tendon tears or ligaments, how do you see him missing some games? Is he hurt right now? He looks like our best back to me

ChrisXVI 09-06-2015 12:00 PM

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ChrisXVI 09-06-2015 12:01 PM

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And Ryan Griffin goes to Tampa.

Danno 09-06-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 665919)
And Ryan Griffin goes to Tampa.

They were 1st up to place claims on players too.

I think we may have lost a decent QB. He lasted 1 waiver claim.


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