Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

New Orleans Saints waiving rookie defensive lineman Ashaad Mabry

The New Orleans Saints are waiving rookie defensive tackle Ashaad Mabry, just one day after he celebrated making the team's original 53-man roster, a source told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune.

The news was first reported by ESPN's Field Yates.

Mabry was one of two players cut on Sunday. The Saints needed roster space after being awarded two players they claimed on waivers.

http://imgick.nola.com/home/nola-med...678-mmmain.jpg

The Saints also released veteran safety Kenny Phillips.

Mabry could still end up on the Saints practice squad after clearing waivers.
The Saints had four undrafted free agent defensive linemen on Saturday's roster, making Mabry vulnerable. Rookies Tavaris Barnes, Bobby Richardson and Kaleb Eulls are still on the 53-man unit.

Mabry, 22, signed with the Saints in May out of UT-San Antonio. He started his college career at Oklahoma State before leaving to be with his mother while she battled a serious

New Orleans Saints waiving rookie defensive lineman Ashaad Mabry | NOLA.com

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Mabry rated out very well against the run according to PFF... he shouldn't clear waivers but if he does I hope he goes to the PS.

Side note, although I like Kenny it's a good sign that he was let go. I actually think Byrd might play week 1 now.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Byrd better play his @ss off...

Don't like releasing Phillips at all; nor Pierre Warren...

Mabry was better at disengaging blocks and shutting down the interior gaps than Jenkins...

Claiming Michael Mauti sounds like a ***-D*amn Brother-In-Law/ Nepotism move like having the linebackers coach's son scout for us...

- this move really pi$$ed me off...

And then we cut one project in Stanley Jean Baptiste to pick up another in Obum Gwacham, a former wide receiver turned defensive end?!? WTF?!?

We just released two, very solid players for a brother-in-law deal and another project who's taking up an active roster spot instead of a practice squad role...

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

We should have been trading a late conditional pick to steal Terrence West from the Browns like the Titans did than releasing two good players for a Rich Mauti's boy and another project...

or perhaps send Ryan Griffin to Cleveland instead of letting him go to Tampa; executive of the year, my arse...

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

I can understand this...

Loomis has lost his appeal to me after the last few years. Some really poor decisions on personnel and FA signings to go together with some very bad contract decisions has backed us into a cap corner for a few years. If Byrd doesn't pan out this year it may be time to cut ties with Loomis as that deal might be the nail in the coffin.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

No part of me is comprehending some of the moves we're making. Warren and Phillips were the best backup safeties we had, and I could understand releasing them if they thought they had better options on the waiver wire, but they didn't replace them at all.

Mabry has shown some potential and definitely has the size, yet we release him and pick up these two no names? Along with all the terrible drafting the past several years and the huge contracts... At least I'm not in the minority anymore among people who are getting tired of these personnel gaffs.

I'm hoping for big things from this team, but they aren't making a lot of sense with whatever they're trying to do.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

I think this was intentionally done to help sneak Mabry through waivers.

There's a better chance of him clearing a 2nd wave of waivers since many teams addressed their need on that 1st wave of cuts.

It may not work, but it just might. If we get him on the PS we can keep him.

Philips will likely be back after week 1 when his salary isn't fully guaranteed. He'll be a week to week cap hit.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

But why try to sneak him through waivers when you can simply keep him like they had in the first place? They didn't replace him with a better player on the roster, so why risk putting him through waivers to have him on the PS?

If it's about the 53 best players then these nobody's we picked up should not take his place. I don't want to over analyze a back of the roster player, but this kind of thing happens every year, and I'm left scratching my head.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

My problem with the Mabry move is that he was the only true NT other than Jenkins on the roster...

And he actually could be a starter with a year or two of experience...

I get Danno's point of week-to-week salary cap hits rather than guaranteeing the contract, but if he's with us all season, what's the point - cap flexibility?!?

The Byrd contract is an Albatross and it should be hung on Loomis' proverbial neck - if it weren't for Payton, he'd gone the way of Kuharich years ago...

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Does Loomis make these decisions? Who does? Is it SP? I don't think blaming any one person is right... But blaming several of them, well that seems fair.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

I blame Both Loomis and Payton. I don't think anyone is brought in or let go without input from Sean. But Loomis is responsible for making sure things make financial sense. He's been really up and down with that for his entire tenure with us.

People forget the pre-Payton/Brees years with Loomis. I frankly couldn't stand him then, and thought he was horrible. Then Payton and Brees get here and suddenly things were looking up. He did make some nice moves during that period, but I don't think we would have gotten Brees if it weren't for his injury. We were very fortunate.

Payton is a good coach. I'm not looking for him to be fired. I just think between he and Loomis, they have gotten sloppy with personnel decisions. Loomis has always been a bit overrated. Having an elite QB makes a lot of people look smart.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Homer, he's the GM and the end of the day, the buck stops with him....

It's about leadership, and if he's rubberstamping all these moves then he's useless all the same...

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

QB - Great. If Brees goes down, just like any other franchise QB, it's not good.
RB - Stacked. Ingram and Robinson are ready. Murphy is a legit returner.
FB - Does it matter? As good as any for a little used NFL position.
WR - Good with potential. Cooks could be all-pro. Snead will make plays and move the chains. Coleman is a wildcard that I think will shine.
TE - Sneaky productive. Neither will be flashy but will get some first down and contribute in the run game. No dunks but this ain't hoops.
OL - Solid. Quality backups in Peat and Kelemete.

DL - Underachieving. Talent is there. Production hasn't been so far. Williams will be solid on the field and a leader overall. I expect improvement.
LB - Promising. Anthony has the skills. Kikaha has a big motor. They will make plays.
CB - New. The word is out on being improved. Browner is solid. Breaux looks the part. Swann has potential. Lewis needs to get well. Just like every other teams 4th and 5th CB's, Dixon and Wilson will hopefully make a special teams play or two and not get toasted.
S - SSDD. Not impressed. The running joke on the message boards continues.
P - All-Pro.
K - Believe. I think the Saints have found their guy.

Coaching - I thought Payton lost the team last year. Having my doubts if he can regain it. Would Ryan be in the NFL if his name wasn't Ryan?
Front office - They have whiffed on some drafts and have given out some bad contracts. Both are an inexact science. But, their grade is low.

A win in Arizona is big. And very doable.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

This suprizes me also. I'm pi$$ed over Bush kept being over Warren the most, why? Bush besides an ocassional cheap shot on a WR. has done absolutely nothing. And now Phillips. Our D want get fixed with management and coaches making stupid moves like this, or drafting the way they do. We will always underachieve this way. A good D to go along with the last 6 seasons of a Brees led O and we would have raised more than 1 Superbowl trophy, good possibility at least 3 more.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

I forgot about the guaranteed contract and the gamble does make sense. Thanks for reminding me.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

It's the general manager job to have scouts in place to make those decisions and 2014 was a bad draft that plenty of fans seen. My biggest complaint about those picks were that a lot of them were injured and SJB was a project with 2nd rd pick, even Seattle didn't take such a gamble on Richard Sherman with a 2nd rd pick, Loomis need to stick what he is best at and that's being a bean counter. He said last year he make those pick and sometimes him and Payton get in heated debated on picks but he have the final say. The guy is smart, knowing his talent of making picks are so weak that he tried to intertwine his contract with Payton but the league refused the contract which had us all sweating that the Cowboys were going to swoop up and sign Payton away

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

So far so good, no one has claimed Mabry or Warren yet. Fingers crossed

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

It should be noted that Warren was our first cut, and not only did 31 teams pass on claiming him at NFL minimum, but not one team has signed him to their practice squad, yet.

Maybe he just isn't as good as we think.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

More proof of the "No Plan" plan.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

How so?

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

If their plan was so simplistic that you could figure out then you could rest assured that every other franchise in the league would have known it well before you. You are not supposed to have a clue of what is going on behind the scenes. Anyone that truly wants to anticipate every move gives more of a shyte about themselves than they do about the success of the team.

By the way, the pronoun "you" doesn't not necessarily mean you.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

The shake up in management already came this past offseason. We drafted better apparently. Hopefully the coaches will do their job because we are more talented than we've been in a while. We just aren't very deep because of poor drafting in the past. I think that this new group of management and scouting could already be turning the club around.

I'm not sure just how good we'll be because the overall the defense is(excluding Williams) young and lacking experience. Jordan is the one proven commodity along the front line which is underperforming at the moment. Jenkins need to assert himself on O-lines.

The team can still blend together better with more time in the system. We are used to injuries really hampering our game plan. Eventually, we will get some of these injured players back and contributing which will increase the game plan. I'm not going to worry until possibly the third week of the season after I've seen the official injury reports and can get a feel for our depth. With our starting safeties on the field the corners will be better and we could begin getting those sacks to kill drives for opposing defenses.

I'm not too worried about the O......we're got Drew. :bng:

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Looks to be better than Bush. In his very limited time on the field vs. Bush time on the field, he has out performed Bush at FS. No one can say Bush hasn't had his chances to try to secure the FS posision at one point in time but I also feel if Warren had a honest opportunity as Bush has had he could have secured the FS position. I will give it to Bush on ST, he isn't to bad but he's not a real FS wheather they have him listed as one or not. I would like Payton to really tell the truth on why he was let go.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoelAEric...rc=twsrc%5Etfwum

Mabry to the PS!
Yes!

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

The only reason Rafael Bush gets any run is because of one big hit in a game against the Seahawks a couple years ago. He's literally done nothing else noteworthy in his time with the team.

I wish we had let Atlanta sign him last year when they were interested.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Excellent news on Mabry :bng: . In due time this guy will become a household name down in the trenches.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

You know, I really don't know what the Saints are doing at this point, and probably neither do the Cardinals or any other team on our schedule. Maybe that's good, more than likely it's not. Nothing we can do about it except trust SP and Co. and hope for the best. Personally I'm not real excited about this season and that's probably a good thing. I just don't get a good feel for this team so I'm not going to get heavily, emotionally invested in them. I think it's pretty much going to be a "Grin and Bear It" kinda year. No one hopes I'm wrong more than I am but we'll see.

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

Slightly relieved, would rather have him on the active 53 rotating with Jenkins...

Any idea if/when Brodrick Bunkley comes back?

Re: Saints waiving rookie Ashaad Mabry and Kenny Phillips
 

The Saints announced Tuesday that they have released defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley on a failed physical designation.

Brodrick Bunkley released by New Orleans Saints - NFL.com