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arsaint 09-08-2015 05:09 PM

More on the imminent decline of Brees
 
Who did Drew hack off over at the 4-letter word of sports?

New Orleans Saints Football Clubhouse - ESPN



Drew Brees was fifth in QBR last season at 73.3, a figure higher than his composite 69.6 score from 2006 through 2013. So all's well, right? Not exactly. Consensus around the league is that Brees has slipped. "He doesn't throw as well," one offensive coordinator says. "His lower body is not as good. He's been nicked up a little bit." Some noticed a certain level of panic creeping into Brees' game, but that seems understandable given how far the New Orleans defense has fallen. One number to watch is interceptions: Brees had 17 last year, third most in the league, thanks in part to the pressure put on him by a D that ranked 32nd in EPA. With the loss of TE Jimmy Graham, the defense can't afford to languish (draft picks 31 and 44 went to linebackers), and the running game has to improve (pressure's on, Mark Ingram and C.J. Spiller). -- Mike Sando

AsylumGuido 09-08-2015 05:47 PM

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Everybody that has no clue and are far too lazy to research just listen to other idiots making the same claims. In his own words Brees felt he had a bad season, even given the fact that he was tied for the league in passing yardage and was second in passing percentage, because his mechanics were off due to a preseason oblique injury.

Brees is fully recovered from the oblique and has returned to his earlier training techniques to get his mechanics back to where they belong. You can expect a banner year from our leader this season.

To hell with those lazy writers.

Cruize 09-08-2015 05:48 PM

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Whatever state Drew is in, I'll take him. My opinion is the coach has asked too much of him. Which Drew wants and gladly accepts. But, the team needs to run the ball more and have more balance. It would help out Drew and it would help out the defense. They have the line and backs to make it happen.

RaginCajun83 09-08-2015 05:57 PM

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decline my ***

WhoDat!656 09-08-2015 06:03 PM

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"Who did Drew hack off over at the 4-letter word of sports?"

CharityMike 09-08-2015 06:19 PM

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Sando..what a blowhard. Dude never has anything good to say about our team. I don't know why he is giving his worthless opinion on a team he doesn't even cover.

44Champs 09-08-2015 07:39 PM

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I'm not agreeing w the article, but Drew has had a lot of costly interceptions, even pick 6's ovee the last 2 seasons. I still believe he's a future hof qb, but I also think he has to prove that he still belongs in the elite top 3-5 status

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RaginCajun83 09-08-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 666400)
I'm not agreeing w the article, but Drew has had a lot of costly interceptions, even pick 6's ovee the last 2 seasons. I still believe he's a future hof qb, but I also think he has to prove that he still belongs in the elite top 3-5 status

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It's due to the fact that besides Evans (who's been playing injuried) the Oline has been garbage since Nicks left

SmashMouth 09-08-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 666370)
Sando..what a blowhard. Dude never has anything good to say about our team. I don't know why he is giving his worthless opinion on a team he doesn't even cover.

His precious Whiners will blow more than he usually does.

44Champs 09-08-2015 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 666402)
It's due to the fact that besides Evans (who's been playing injuried) the Oline has been garbage since Nicks left

I agree - I expect him to have a better year this year. But the "perception" is that his best days are behind him - bad OLine or not - and now w an improved front, this is the year for him to prove the naysayers wrong and to change that perception.

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ChrisXVI 09-08-2015 08:30 PM

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Blaming the O-Line is a bull**** excuse. The Packers have a mediocre O-Line and that doesn't stop their QB from always being league MVP.

RaginCajun83 09-08-2015 09:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 666411)
Blaming the O-Line is a bull**** excuse. The Packers have a mediocre O-Line and that doesn't stop their QB from always being league MVP.

So that's why Graham was traded for an ALL PRO Center? Okay?

Watt was the MVP, the writers screwed him over

Boutte 09-08-2015 10:46 PM

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Rogers has separated himself from the rest of the pack. That has no bearing on Bees' abilities though. Still a top 5 guy in my opinion.

NOLA54 09-08-2015 11:06 PM

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It's just the usual hacks trying to create controversy...ignore it.

burningmetal 09-08-2015 11:09 PM

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I hoping that Brees isn't just blowing smoke about his mechanics, and that he really does return to form. But I still think his decision making has been his biggest problem lately. No, the line hasn't been great, but he has tried to throw into double and triple coverage even when he has time.

So I'll believe he's back to his old self when I see it. Either way, there's no arguing he's our best option for now and at least in the near future. When you read some of these columns, you'd swear Brees were a paraplegic.

RaginCajun83 09-08-2015 11:39 PM

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he no longer has Graham, I really thing Brees got into a mind set where when the line broke down just throw it to Graham and he will bail me out. That option is gone, Brees will go back to spreading the ball around now

RailBoss 09-09-2015 01:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 666411)
Blaming the O-Line is a bull**** excuse. The Packers have a mediocre O-Line and that doesn't stop their QB from always being league MVP.

At 6-2 Rodgers at least can see over his line.

hagan714 09-09-2015 01:25 AM

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ask me at the end of 2015.

RailBoss 09-09-2015 01:26 AM

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I'll take my chances with Brees. Have seen a lot of QB's around the league and there are very few with the brains and accuracy that Drew still possesses.

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2015 01:05 PM

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Drew is declining at an alarming rate for a 50 yr. old has been. Oh wait, he's still in his 30's?

Seer1 09-09-2015 03:13 PM

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Well, it is too bad that Jimmy's gone as he was the only person able to catch a pass in the greater New Orleans metropolitan area...



That was sarcasm for you more literal minded folk BTW.

jlaw8920 09-09-2015 03:34 PM

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People are constantly saying that losing Jimmy will cause him to go backwards in pass game. I think it will improve it. I'm not saying I don't miss Jimmy, he was an animal when healthy. However, more and more, I saw Drew try to force feed Jimmy, sometimes when he was basically in triple coverage. I think not having him, will allow him stay in the flow of spreading the ball, keeping the secondary on their feet.

AsylumGuido 09-09-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 666641)
People are constantly saying that losing Jimmy will cause him to go backwards in pass game. I think it will improve it. I'm not saying I don't miss Jimmy, he was an animal when healthy. However, more and more, I saw Drew try to force feed Jimmy, sometimes when he was basically in triple coverage. I think not having him, will allow him stay in the flow of spreading the ball, keeping the secondary on their feet.

Exactly. I have been preaching the same sermon for months.

By the way, welcome to the site if I haven't expressed those feelings previously.

Edit: I see you have been around since May 2013. Don't be such a stranger.

pherein 09-09-2015 05:44 PM

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Oh yeah he sucks, over the hill...well he will be passing over to Hill.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-starting-qbs/

Danno 09-09-2015 05:55 PM

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Jimmy's drops were a problem. We should improve dramatically with him in Seattle.

Drew has shown a knack for finding the open man for 9 freaking years now. Losing Jimmy Graham isn't going to hurt us one freaking bit.

The Dude 09-09-2015 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 666346)
Who did Drew hack off over at the 4-letter word of sports?

New Orleans Saints Football Clubhouse - ESPN



Drew Brees was fifth in QBR last season at 73.3, a figure higher than his composite 69.6 score from 2006 through 2013. So all's well, right? Not exactly. Consensus around the league is that Brees has slipped. "He doesn't throw as well," one offensive coordinator says. "His lower body is not as good. He's been nicked up a little bit." Some noticed a certain level of panic creeping into Brees' game, but that seems understandable given how far the New Orleans defense has fallen. One number to watch is interceptions: Brees had 17 last year, third most in the league, thanks in part to the pressure put on him by a D that ranked 32nd in EPA. With the loss of TE Jimmy Graham, the defense can't afford to languish (draft picks 31 and 44 went to linebackers), and the running game has to improve (pressure's on, Mark Ingram and C.J. Spiller). -- Mike Sando

Same could be said for Manning and Brady. It comes with age. Brady won the Super Bowl last year.
OUr offensive line last year sure as hell didn't help his interception ration either.
Yea, He is getting older and not the Brees of old but he is still better than 25 other starting QBs around the league.
Any team a QB away from contending would salivate to have him on their team.

Boutte 09-09-2015 06:59 PM

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It really is amazing that so many of these hack reporters making a living writing about what they've heard from other writers as if it were gospel. This guy sounds like he didn't watch a single Saints game last year.

Probably couldn't tell you the name of one of our O lineman without looking at a roster.

iceshack149 09-14-2015 11:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jlaw8920 (Post 666641)
People are constantly saying that losing Jimmy will cause him to go backwards in pass game. I think it will improve it. I'm not saying I don't miss Jimmy, he was an animal when healthy. However, more and more, I saw Drew try to force feed Jimmy, sometimes when he was basically in triple coverage. I think not having him, will allow him stay in the flow of spreading the ball, keeping the secondary on their feet.

Good stuff. I agree completely.

Seattle is suffering without Unger (and Anthony:)) and Drew has another Big fella to throw to in Coleman.

Get these kids coached up on defense and this team will be better than last years group.

claus808 09-15-2015 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 668050)
Good stuff. I agree completely.

Seattle is suffering without Unger (and Anthony:)) and Drew has another Big fella to throw to in Coleman.

Get these kids coached up on defense and this team will be better than last years group.

I agree...I mean how many rookies started sunday? I think Arizona is going to go deep in the playoffs, if without any injuries. We didn't do bad for what we had on the field, and against the opponent we had, and being AWAY.

spkb25 09-15-2015 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 666705)
It really is amazing that so many of these hack reporters making a living writing about what they've heard from other writers as if it were gospel. This guy sounds like he didn't watch a single Saints game last year.

Probably couldn't tell you the name of one of our O lineman without looking at a roster.



It is, all you have to do is take stats, remove the context, and Bam you can write a story...wait there are a lot of people on this board who do exactly the same thing. There are literally people on this board yelling we did not run enough on Sunday.

MaggieMayTB 09-15-2015 04:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 666411)
Blaming the O-Line is a bull**** excuse. The Packers have a mediocre O-Line and that doesn't stop their QB from always being league MVP.

True dat!
And
I am tired of the Jordy Blues.

saintshrimp 09-15-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 668060)
It is, all you have to do is take stats, remove the context, and Bam you can write a story...wait there are a lot of people on this board who do exactly the same thing. There are literally people on this board yelling we did not run enough on Sunday.

That would be yours truly. Thank you very much. We never run enough. We always give up on the run. We rather throw the dam ball 40 -50 times game When you have a coach and a qb that think 48-pass to 20-run is balanced, you have an recipe for great passing stats and no real wins. Wins is what count. That whole 'the defense is the problem' has played out we all know we stink on defense . Its called Sean's predictable play calling and lame excuses as to why we didn't run the ball on a 3rd and 1 are the problem and his always sticking up for Drew's mistakes but calling out others. The Golden boy never does any wrong even to a lot of you fans which I understand fandom makes us blind at times . Hint for you coach When it's I-formation and quick snap, guaranteed run anyone can see that including opposing defenses. Sean loves to say "they were showing us a heavy front." Maybe he wants to see a heavy front so he can watch his baby throw for another meaningless record. Bellichik says "stats are for losers, final scores are for winners You don't see Bill and Tom airing the ball out 50 times a game

Mardigras9 09-15-2015 12:56 PM

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Any stat on Drew should be thrown out last year, he was running for his life and trying to score enough points to compensate for a crappy defense. If we didn't have a two TD lead heading into the 2 minute warning, we were screwed last year.


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