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Boutte 09-21-2015 07:59 PM

Penalties and commercials
 
reviewing plays, time outs... How do these guys stay focused on the game? They spend so much time standing around I can hardly stand to watch an NFL game anymore.

Despite the vastly superior talent now compared to 20 years ago the level of play has declined. Bad tackling and generally poor fundamentals in almost all areas of play are getting worse. Not to mention that any good defensive play will probably get flagged.

They aren't even allowed to wear pads in practice anymore.

I'm finding myself enjoying college football more than NFL for the first time in my life.

Danno 09-21-2015 08:03 PM

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Beat me to it Boutte.

NFL (Numerous Flags League) games are becoming unwatchable.

Boutte 09-21-2015 08:14 PM

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Wish I could get Australian Rules Football. Good game once you figure it out.

foreverfan 09-22-2015 05:04 AM

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The Payton Manning commercials are killing me.

SloMotion 09-22-2015 06:32 AM

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There does seem to be a lot of disinterested milling about on NFL sidelines. :neutral:

saintfan 09-22-2015 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 669905)
reviewing plays, time outs... How do these guys stay focused on the game? They spend so much time standing around I can hardly stand to watch an NFL game anymore.

Despite the vastly superior talent now compared to 20 years ago the level of play has declined. Bad tackling and generally poor fundamentals in almost all areas of play are getting worse. Not to mention that any good defensive play will probably get flagged.

They aren't even allowed to wear pads in practice anymore.

I'm finding myself enjoying college football more than NFL for the first time in my life.

Bad tackling and poor fundamentals...just like you said. They are more focused workout warriors, but they aren't better 'football players'. Bigger and faster for sure, but not better football players.

SmashMouth 09-22-2015 07:04 AM

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I blame Roger Goodell.

saintfan 09-22-2015 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 670002)
I blame Roger Goodell.

Me too. For everything. I wish he and my ex-wife could get together...

Crusader 09-22-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 670003)
Me too. For everything. I wish he and my ex-wife could get together...

I'm working on it. Can't promise anything.

neugey 09-22-2015 07:26 AM

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The NFL has had a long-standing preoccupation with penalties, stoppages and TV timeouts. The killer is the double-up of commercial breaks after a score, and after the successive kickoff. It's almost like you have to be doing something else - surfing the net, being completely drunk, whatever - to make it through an NFL game. But it's all for a good cause, poor Goodell needs to payoff all of his lawyer buddies for Deflategate.

SloMotion 09-22-2015 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 670007)
The NFL has had a long-standing preoccupation with penalties, stoppages and TV timeouts. The killer is the double-up of commercial breaks after a score, and after the successive kickoff. It's almost like you have to be doing something else - surfing the net, being completely drunk, whatever - to make it through an NFL game. But it's all for a good cause, poor Goodell needs to payoff all of his lawyer buddies for Deflategate.

That's a good point, I'm frequently on my laptop, channel surfing or maoing down on something to get through games ... never use to be like that, :neutral:.

burningmetal 09-22-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 669989)
The Payton Manning commercials are killing me.

That dude bobs his head so freaking much when he tries to say something funny. He's beyond awkward, and worse than that he's not even a little bit funny. I don't know why they keep trying to make a comedian out of him.

RailBoss 09-22-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 670002)
I blame Roger Goodell.

I blame Jerry Glanville

While head coach of the Houston Oilers, Glanville coined the now-famous phrase "NFL means 'not for long'", while admonishing a game official for making what Glanville felt were bad calls. The exact quote is "This is N-F-L, which stands for 'not for long' when you make them f*ckin' calls."

Budsdrinker 09-22-2015 12:17 PM

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Yeah the most fundamentally sound tackle I saw all day was the roughing penalty on Vaccaro which was a terrible call. He wrapped up his legs perfectly with his helmet to the side.

Rugby Saint II 09-22-2015 12:26 PM

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If you've had enough...........there's always rugby. :razz:

Halo 09-22-2015 12:30 PM

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NFL football is NOT the same game in 2015. I noticed this at the Superdome Sunday. It's impossible for any team to get momentum when you stop after after first down or big play for two minutes for a tv timeout. It seemed like the TV had to cover the Football game and if TV didn't come back in time from commercial, you missed out.

By comparison after seeing my nephew play in high school football the past 2 seasons, those games are the football that we all know, or knew. Teams get on a roll and their opponents have to stop them by force and not by forced time out.

Again, Goodell and the NFL are destroying the game of Football over commercialization and profits.

neugey 09-22-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 670098)
NFL football is NOT the same game in 2015. I noticed this at the Superdome Sunday. It's impossible for any team to get momentum when you stop after after first down or big play for two minutes for a tv timeout. It seemed like the TV had to cover the Football game and if TV didn't come back in time from commercial, you missed out.

By comparison after seeing my nephew play in high school football the past 2 seasons, those games are the football that we all know, or knew. Teams get on a roll and their opponents have to stop them by force and not by forced time out.

Again, Goodell and the NFL are destroying the game of Football over commercialization and profits.

Last Friday night my daughter went to watch the HS football game with some friends. Then on Monday after school, she said she going to watch the football game. Before she could explain it was the JV team, I said "The football team can't be playing 3 days after their last game. This isn't the NFL." Says it all right there.

jlouhill 09-22-2015 04:34 PM

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I rarely watch a game live now. I DVR it then start watching about an hour or so in to it just so I can skip through all the crap. My biggest pet peeve is going to commercial after a score, they come back on and kickoff then go to commercial again after the run back. Somebody shoot me already. That DVR is the greates invention since sliced bread.

RailBoss 09-22-2015 05:53 PM

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Probably the best is NFL Replay if you can wait.

skymike 09-22-2015 06:28 PM

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I just got an email asking me to take a survey about my fan experience at the New Orleans Saints game. But they're asking the wrong questions.

They're all worried about:

-- Do we have enough technology to make you happy?
-- is there enough pixels on the big screen?
-- Does the wi-fi give you enough whatevers wi-fis give you?
-- Are the short attention span features on the big screens entertaining enough?
-- Do we give you enough healthy choices, tofu & sprouts and (Im not making this up gluten free alternatives to eat. GLUTEN FREE JACK JACK JACK JACK... I cannot make this up. Im at a Saints game. they're worried about Gluten. We didnt even have gluten when I was a kid, and we certainly werent scared of it. The Chinese have already conquered us.

Whats next? A playland for kids who cant get into the game? Special safety helmets & orange vests for people in the Terrace?

I JUST WANT TO PUKE. And its not from Saturday night's Hurricane.

Anyway, anywhere I had a comment box to fill in, I tried to drive home the point that I could give a sh** less about wi-fi, pixels, amenities, gluten, and anything that football didnt have in 1975.

FOOTBALL SELLS FOOTBALL. I appreciate the air conditioning and roof, but honestly, if we could sit in aluminum bleachers at Tulane Stadium, that would be fine with me. I dont need amenities. I dont need special entertainment. I dont need pixels or wifi. I will chug a bottle of gluten, and do 50 pushups, and live.

I also kept filling in, "TURN DOWN THE SPEAKERS."

They could throw the speakers into some River Parish Disposal trucks, and I could bring a transistor and listen to Jim Henderson. Too many ads. Too much hype... Too much crap. And how many more games are we gonna lose, before our players are so embarrassed to run out into that smoke & fire darken the room extravaganza pre-game, that they dont want to come out of the tunnel? Its Saints & Tampa, people. Worst 2 teams in football.
Just tell us who won the toss and lets play football.

ITS INTERESTING THAT the 2 stadiums people most want to watch a football and a baseball game are:
1. Lambeau
2. Wrigley

The 2 oldest stadiums in sports, and the 2 stadiums with the least "amenities." Do we see a pattern?

FOOTBALL SELLS FOOTBALL. Here's what I need for my fan experience:
-- Grass or artificial grass field.
-- a Football game with Saints and an opponent.
-- a place to sit / and sometimes stand.
-- beer
-- hot dog or (optional) jambalaya
-- a place to pee legally.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS CRAP AND NEEDS TO GO.

Except, if you wish to enhance my fan experience.
-- Saintsations
-- A College Band, like LSU, Southern, Grambling, etc.
-- A roving Jazz band, and a bunch of goofballs with umbrellas.

SloMotion 09-22-2015 06:45 PM

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So, answer the question Mike, did you have enough tofu & sprouts?, :rofl:

skymike 09-22-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 670178)
So, answer the question Mike, did you have enough tofu & sprouts?, :rofl:

youre killing you...
lol -- see you soon.

NOLA54 09-22-2015 07:43 PM

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The NFL has so much money they can forgo most the interruptions via commercials & unnecessary timeouts. It is very frustrating. I've also complained about how all the commercials are timed so that if you switch to another game you catch that game in a commercial break too.

burningmetal 09-23-2015 10:28 AM

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If all that isn't bad enough, CBS takes it to a whole different level. I flipped over to that channel after the end of the first quarter in the Saints game, and there were still over 6 minutes left in the first quarter of that game. That is an every week occurrence. They drag out every single possible thing that they can.

exile 09-23-2015 02:00 PM

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I'm really tired of draftqueens/Fanduellls commercials. Enough already. I'm not paying for online gambling.

Danno 09-23-2015 02:37 PM

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Some of the Hardees commercials are very, very good.

neugey 09-23-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 670316)
I'm really tired of draftqueens/Fanduellls commercials. Enough already. I'm not paying for online gambling.

The advertising budget of these fantasy gambling sites is just off the charts! I couldn't even watch a college game without seeing one nearly every commercial break. I was hoping that at least the NCAA wanted to keep clear of the gambling stank, but no.

Boutte 09-23-2015 08:18 PM

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I don't get to to too many games these days. Watching at home is awful because of the commercials but being at the game is way worse. You have to actually sit there and watch a bunch of big guys in funny costumes stand around and scratch their butts.


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