How many more games before Rob Ryan is fired?
 

It will be after Dallas if we lose !!

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shouldn't happen

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No way, he finishes the season.
The lack of pass rush and sporadic DB play is player related, not Ryan. Now the scheme that seems to prevent ANYBODY covering a tight end is totally Ryan.

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He gets the benefit of the doubt until all starters hit the field. Healthy Lewis and possibly Byrd and Ellerbe will make a difference.

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he should of been fired after last season

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We are playing with half a deck. it's not RR's fault that the FO utterly mismanaged the cap and he's having to take CFL players and rookies because the team cannot afford any real talent.

It's like blaming the baby sitter because the child has a birth defect.

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Bring in whatever DC you want you'll have the same issue.
Micky Loomis, Sean Payton, Joe Vitt and a few other are more to blame atm.

Rob Ryan isn't the problem.

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Playing a slow press corner 10 yards off the receiver is scheme. If he is to stupid to play to the strengths of his players, he needs to go.

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SP and Loomis won't do that till after the season IMHO

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I'm sorry, who hired both Spags and RR? Yessss now you can see the "real problem"


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the same guy who won't fire his drinking buddies yet they haven't developed a LB or DL since 2006

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Wait! He's still here.

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Unfortunately he is probably here until the end of the season.

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If one goes during the season, all will be gone.

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Only reason I thought about the Dallas game is Payton has a weird sense of humor. With Ryan getting fired in Dallas and coming here after that. Payton is going to have to justify this defenseless D that we have before the hammer comes his way. 0-4 will be a big hole to try to and firing RR is just a chess move. I do agree that Johnson and Vitt need the axe, I'll through in Allen also.I would like a diffent scheme, coaches that no how to get the most from the players and bring a D culture that we haven't had in many years. If we do these things now, we know what we need for next season to fix it. I'm sick of this pitiful D.

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If it was me -1, but I am guessing it will be another 13

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I don't see us losing to Dallas. I think it will be a blowout.

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Yeah, we said that about Tampa also. Put on your seatbelt, the rollercoaster continues.

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A BLOWOUT LOSS!

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Too many people to blame here. It's not just on Loomis because of bad contracts. He is getting input guaranteed from Payton and Ryan on free agents and re-signings. Guaranteed all 3 played a part if hand picking Byrd as a missing piece and locking up Gallete. And same goes for the defensive drafts. I would be certain all 3 signed off on each pick and every free agent we brought on board.

It's as much Payton and Loomis's fault as Ryan's. They all share in the disaster that is our defense. He looked like a savior coming in and unleashing a defense that was misused and stifled in Spags scheme but the lack of talent and discipline quickly overcame the enthusiasm and momentum.

I don't think he gets fired until season end and I can fully see Payton walking away, Loomis getting let go and the whole front office going in another direction. Not because Benson demands it but just via attrition of these guys.

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Hard to cover with no pass rush.
3 seconds OK. 6 seconds is nearly impossible.
They won't quit mid-stream. Ryan's safe until the end of the season.
If they fired him, whoever comes behind him would still be managing 4-3 with no pass rush.
Ryan will have to shoulder the load until season end. Then he's justifiably gone.
If he gets middle of the road performance out of them, he keeps his job.
Personnel is a joint decision. They ALL are living with a working through the poor performance.
The easy out would be to fire Ryan.
The best out is to draft/FA some players that can play.
The million dollar question is where do we get the money?
The follow-up question is, If we're broke, why aren't we seeing our monies worth?

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If the Saints lose to Dallas, He's out

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AMEN

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We've got more than enough talent on defense to not finish dead F'ing last.

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I think we need to cut him some slack until we have our full roster on the field. Our defense is made up of backups, rookies, and players who werent here last year yet they still manage to improve in certain areas. A good lineman takes a little time to develop and I think we are ok at secondary if we can get a pass rush. The talent level is just not there yet. We get Lewis and Byrd back healthy and its going to help.

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What has he done to be given this much slack?

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1 good year, 1 bad year.

This is his last chance. If our defense still sucks at year's end, he's gone and I say good riddance.

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This team often gets up and plays better for the prime-time national games under Payton. I have a feeling we will play/coach our A-games and get a convincing win over Dallas to cool the hot coaching seats. Then next week we will be back to a lower profile game and the same suckage we've been witnessing.

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Probably should have got the message from Cleveland & Dallas.

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I'd like to see how the defense performs with Lewis, Byrd and Ellerbe together.

And I'd like to see Ryan make the necessary adjustments at halftime to win a game for once.

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I think our offense is just as much at fault as our defense. They wouldn't let RR hire his own people and brought in Allen on top of that. I don't believe they have given him a fair chance to begin with.

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Drew saved Ryan for another week. The D has improved

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Rob Ryan's defenses have finished in the bottom half of the league something like approximately 10 of the 14 seasons that he's been a DC. I have no reason to think that he will ever make a big impact, even w good players.

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the entire team is out whack so i am giving rob a break and sitting back and looking for silver linings

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never liked Ryan and always thought he was more name than coach. We would be better off to have Payton call the plays.

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We got more with less with Greg Williams. I believe Ryan may not be the sole reason we aren't that good,but he is the main problem. We need a DC and some defensive coaches that will turn these players into animals. We may not have a group of all pros on D,but we do not lack talent on that side of the ball. Most importantly, we need to pick a f**king scheme and stick with it. Changing schemes every year is no different that getting a new DC evey year.

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What part of the defense is consistent? Maybe LB's, every other part has been suspect.

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Our secondary and D line is consistent....we know what we're gonna get every game! :)