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Interesting point:

Maybe this is our year for a decent FA CB?

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Let\'s hope so. I like Dyson from Tenn and Lucas from Sea as not big names but players who have good skills.

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Those were the two names I was most interested in as well. Here\'s to hoping....

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Donovin Darious, is the Name I most want to see come to the saints on Defense, Well as far as the back\'s go............ Interesting note I read I think on saints report.com a few weeks ago that the Saints were intrested in Kurt Waarner, I hope not, But at least he is intellegent, and has won superbowls, but IMO over his prime but still useful for the right price.........

At OT the man I want, will be tagged I think, Walter Jones, do you remember how seatle runs all over us up the middle..... errrrr all teams did that, but the last 2 years Jones has hurt us personally......

And big ole Jermaine Wiggins at Tight end is interesting........

Or if we are Lucky Bubba Franks, He is a good team leader it says to boot. I know he is good cause I watch alot of GB games......

who I Really Like is not a free agent and I wish we could steal him is the Atl tight end Algae Crumpler

at Cb I agree with you guys either Dyson or Lucas will not(should not) cost an arm and a leg, and you pair either of them with M. McKenzie + F. Brown at nickel and Thomas at Dime Cb should be VASTLY improved. But like I stated you get D. Darious, which will cost alot, along with Tbuck (who wasn\'t all that bad this year) Our saftey positions will be vastly improved.

Now the Thing at QB.... this should be on the AB threads.....
Mike McMahon, would be my choice, and Trade A Brooks for best Value, and maybe even use that vvalue ie; picks to get some of the rest of our wish list.......

But any combo of O lineman would be nice, damn I miss Turley.........

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i like McMahon too, and it has been said before. Those who want Brooks to stay will point to Brooks\' stats over his so you can\'t win since he wasn\'t a starter. But I like the kid.

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I also really like Dyson.

Perhaps we should look to get a solid #2 CB.

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Henry from da browns???? or maybe he will be askin 2 much?

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I like Lucas better.

[Edited on 11/2/2005 by saintswhodi]

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For fantasy players...

Before Corey Dillion was cut from the Bengals, I predicted Rudi Johnson will take his job. I was right.

Another prediction I made years ago, when Shaun Alexander leaves the Seahawks, Maurice Morris will become an elite back. Mark my words!

Yea I read this early in the morning... it was a nice read. I also like Darius, he\'s a hard-hitting safety who always makes his tackles. But he\'s franchised every year, so I don\'t think he\'ll be available. Henry from the Browns is a playmaker. He always gets his fair share of pick and would be a good complement to Mike.

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I\'ve heard more about CB this offseason than I did last season!! How about talk of LINEBACKER!?!? McKenzie and Brown are at least AVERAGE, especially with a solid front SEVEN... notice that number is SEVEN and not FOUR.

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Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.

I\'ve also noticed more about OFFENSE this offseason than I have the last 3 combined. Our offense is at least AVERAGE. And everyone agrees they underachieved greatly to attain that average ranking.

Our defense worked their tails off (well all except one lazy Bulldog) and still finished dead last. There are signs of life, but without an infusion or 2 or 3 LB\'s they\'ll flatline by week 4.

I could even live with our current DT\'s if someone would guarantee me we\'d pick 2 or 3 stud LB\'s in FA/draft.

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Ok then boys, who at LB? Peterson is going to be tagged. Trotter works well only in Philidelphia, it seems. Hartwell I don\'t know anything about. Maybe he is just a product of playing beside Ray Lewis?

Those are the top 3 FA according to the article. I think we need one, maybe two, LBs brought in. I want Watson to continue to start in the middle and I\'d like to see Buckwoldt get a starting chance in camp.

Go ahead. You found it easy to criticize others for not mentioning LBs. So, mention some yourselves. ;)

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I just assumed that this thread was headed toward a discussion of CBs.

It is posted almost everywhere I can see that people think LB is more important than a DB (with the exception of maybe one or two guys). In fact, if you were so inclined, you can look at any of my postings on this matter and you will see that I think we need two LBs before we even look at DBs.

What is the problem with talking CBs? I don\'t get it.

\"I think MM is good and F. Brown and F. Thomas (when healthy) are serviceable scond corners. I think Dyson would be better than anyone one else on the roster. I also think it would be nice to get a Safety, but not until the LB position is solidified, with at least two FAs. Also, I\'d like to see us get one or two new OTs - that should probably also be done before the DBs are considered\"

Is that kind of statement more acceptable than \"I like Dyson, maybe we should think about a #2 CB\"? I don\'t think I can write something that long every time I want to say something that isn\'t about our LB situation.

WTF guys?

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My thoughts exactly. If you don\'t wanna discuss corner, don\'t. It\'s like people are under the impression the more we discuss a certain position, the more the team will ACTUALLY address that and not other more important areas. I am sure they don\'t care which position we discuss, why should anyone else? I am with Kool, what gives?

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I didn\'t see anyone criticize talking of CB\'s?
What gives?
I think LB is more important, but a solid shut down CB wouldn\'t tick me off at all.
The reason you don\'t hear LB or defense in general is because the offensive players get all the publicity and limelight.

I want more LB/DT/CB/SS/FS discussions because of the very fact that I don\'t know much league-wide about them. But I do know there dammm sure gotta be more than 3 good LB\'s out there.

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I\'m just pulling your chain a bit Danno, but...
WhoDat said
You seemd to heartily agree when you said:
Seems like there was criticism, i.e., [paraphrasing] why are you talking about CB when you should be talking about LB. And then you agreed.

Anyway, the article mentioned a few other LBs one of whom was Mark Fields. So, I didn\'t pay much attention to the others since Fields was in their category and we already let him leave.

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OK you nailed me on that one.
Speaking of Fields, he happens to be one of the players Haslett publicly stated he wished he hadn\'t let go, and it was definitely a mistake. The other was Glover.

I wouldn\'t be surprised to see us make a push to get Fields, even though most see him as a glorified Sedrick Hodge.

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Danno, why don\'t YOU bring up LBs and such more if YOU wanna discuss that more? Like Scotty said, there were LBs mentioned in there cause it discussed EVERY position. Instead of criticizing us for something you don\'t wanna discuss, you can start a thread discussing what you do or lead us to where you wanna go. I have NO problem with that at all, and would welcome it. But criticizing people for what they are discussing cause you don\'t agree is kinda counter-productive.

That being said, I wouldn\'t mind getting Mark back. I would have a fear of relapse with his cancer, but he OBVIOUSLY has the heart that we need on D. We don\'t have a lot of that on this TEAM outside of a few players and an injection here or there at ANY position would be nice. I don\'t think we will spend for the higer priced guys.

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saintswhodi,ck your PM\'s.

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I don\'t have any Joe. Halo said he sent me one not too long ago, and I never got it either. I ended up sending one to him that I don\'t know if he got. Something\'s wrong with it. If you are asking me to leave, you can do that here and I will. It\'s all good.

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Not asking you to leave just chill out.

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Alsaints and myself squashed it, quite nicely if I say so myself. :D

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my god joesam. im sorry but please tell me why you are always trying to tell someone to chill out. bro you only seem to tell a select few. im sorry its just tiring. really though

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im sorry joesam but im justwondering?

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As to why? It\'s my job as moderator to keep members from fighting.


As to it being tiring, yes it is. But if it\'s not liked all you have to do is get everyone to quit the fighting and act like grownups.

Lastly, why di I even have to explain this?

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ok i do relize thats your job and i dont have a problem with you at all and i hope you know that. i mean honestly i probally should have been banned a couple of times and all you did was warn me. i jumped the gun because i didnt notice anyone was arguing which is why i asked the question. i think i should probally keep my mouth shut from now on to prevent me from sticking my foot in it.

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realize not relize