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AsylumGuido 09-30-2015 08:12 PM

Brees restructure/ Hicks trade?
 
I would expect most would see some type of connection, but look at the numbers.

The Brees restructure opened up $2.6M in 2015 cap.

The Hicks trade actually netted the Saints another $100K or so.

Something else is obviously in the works.

QBREES9 09-30-2015 09:13 PM

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Get ready!!! We in for a bumpy ride

GeauxForMore 09-30-2015 10:05 PM

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I hope so

burningmetal 09-30-2015 10:35 PM

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Clearly... Because $100k is a fortune in the NFL.

I'm sure there will be other moves, but this is hardly interesting or enlightening.

RailBoss 10-01-2015 12:45 AM

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All eyes are on the Chicago Fire Sale, maybe?

CheramieIII 10-01-2015 07:55 AM

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and I think the Brees restructure means we can end all of the trade talk.

vpheughan 10-01-2015 08:48 AM

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Spending 5.2 gets you 2.6? Is that a WIN - win? Do all of these transactions cost the team $1.00 for every .50 cents they pay?

RailBoss 10-01-2015 02:04 PM

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Seems awful quiet don't see anything around the net on any trades. Usually Adam Schefter has the inside information before anyone else.

AsylumGuido 10-01-2015 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 672333)
Seems awful quiet don't see anything around the net on any trades. Usually Adam Schefter has the inside information before anyone else.

Glazer gets the Saints scoops usually. He is friends with Payton.

AsylumGuido 10-01-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 672274)
Spending 5.2 gets you 2.6? Is that a WIN - win? Do all of these transactions cost the team $1.00 for every .50 cents they pay?

No, Brees was getting the $5.2M this year anyway. The restructure lowered his 2015 base salary by $5.2M which was converted to a signing bonus which was then prorated over the remaining two years of his contract. The net effect is that the 2015 cap hit is lowered by $2.6M and the 2016 cap hit is increased by $2.6M.

Shuffling of numbers is what cost accounting is all about. It doesn't cost the team anything. Brees gets that money immediately instead of spread out over the 17 weeks of this regular season so he can start earning interest on it sooner. So, yes, it is a win/win.

jnormand 10-01-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 672264)
and I think the Brees restructure means we can end all of the trade talk.

God I hope so. I'm sorry but some of the stuff said on here was kind of messed up IMO. Everyone is ready to give up on the season, fire the coaches and trade the one good QB we've had since Archie. Jesus.

K Major 10-01-2015 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 672351)
God I hope so. I'm sorry but some of the stuff said on here was kind of messed up IMO. Everyone is ready to give up on the season, fire the coaches and trade the one good QB we've had since Archie. Jesus.

But ... some of these coaches do need to be fired though.

AsylumGuido 10-01-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 672353)
But ... some of these coaches do need to be fired though.

Not if you want to have any hope for the remainder of the season. Only losers fire coaches midseason.

K Major 10-01-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 672354)
Not if you want to have any hope for the remainder of the season. Only losers fire coaches midseason.

No doubt ... I wouldn't fire Rob mid season however if the Saints continue their downward spiral I can definitely see him and possibly others on the current staff let go after the season is complete.

Busted coverages, blown assignments, 13 men on the field, penalties.
That ain't gonna cut it.

Danno 10-01-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 672354)
Not if you want to have any hope for the remainder of the season. Only losers fire coaches midseason.

I agree thats accurate 90% of the time. But if you have a competent assistant who can take over for a DC that has proven to be incompetent or has lost the respect of the players then I think you pull the trigger.

Not saying Ryan is there yet, or that Dennis Allen is that guy who can take over, but its certainly not out of the realm of believe-ability.

burningmetal 10-01-2015 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 672354)
Not if you want to have any hope for the remainder of the season. Only losers fire coaches midseason.

I haven't seen a lot of people talking about in-season firings. It's generally understood that when people want someone fired, they mean after the season. This is absolutely the last year for a lot of these guys on staff if things don't turn around drastically.

We went 7-9 last year, when some had us going to the superbowl. Now we're 0-3. What is the definition of loser, if we aren't it? That's not a personal shot at their character (though there have been a few of those issues with players who have since left the building) but it's an indisputable fact on the field.

halloween 65 10-02-2015 05:03 AM

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If I could I would be that loser. I would fire the entire D staff and bring in competent coaches to be able to evaluate what type of players we need to fill the gapping holes and who to keep in this so-called D we have now and plan better for next season we would't look like idiots we look like now. Now is the perfect time if you ask me. They might improve a little but rest ashurd this D want be anything special and keeping these coaches longer,well we will continue to stink.

UK_WhoDat 10-02-2015 06:49 AM

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Maybe the $100k is being invested to make $2.6m


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