We need to trade Brees now!
 

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that was one of the best 1:51 drills Ive seen with no timeouts. Pats fans said it was brilliant, and he was hurt. They are all congratulating Brees on 400 TDs.

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The way he played this game... Brees is a warrior.

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It would be very difficult to trade him. Nobody would give us much for a guy who's beat up.

I was not particularly impressed by anything he or the rest of the offense did until the last two drives. But I'm thrilled with the win. We know Drew can complete 30 five yard passes any given week, but he's obviously still not healthy if that's what he's going to do. That's not a knock on him, it's a knock on Payton. Drew did what he could do, and the 80 yard touchdown was beautiful.

In other news, it's time to take the blocks off of Spiller. I think he proved he's healthy.

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Nice way to get 400 TDs.

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Wow, I think I saw the light tonight. Heart attack!!!

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Should have been done with it with the FG. But the coin flipped our way and Brees got it done!

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Brees was extremely lucky last night. Good, but lucky that those two directly-thrown INTs weren't caught.

A great win and a great feeling to have a win against the Cowboys. There were thousands of them in NOLA last night.

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ABSOLUTELY NOT

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Yea I loved how people in the chat were calling to put Luke in after that first drive. He is still hurt no doubt but still better than 90% of QBs out there. I don't see that there is any way we can find a better QB within the next two years. It's time to start thinking of the future but we aren't there yet.

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I thought it was a mistake to play Brees. Dallas is all banged up and we barely won the game. Good yard stick to see where we really are. So lucky for the drops by Dallas AlaskaSaints is spot on. We were just lucky and don't have much of a chance when we play a good team. I still think Brees is about done but I am grateful for what he has accomplished for us. It is not a good time for us we are going to have to let the players mature and try and get some more good players. I hate to say it but we have to rebuild. I do blame management for not making good choices that could have kept us competitive like Green Bay and New England are able to do year after year.

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Drew just needs a new play-caller and our offense could roll.

Is it any wonder why we seem to play better in 2min drill/hurry up offense? Payton isn't calling the plays...

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Is that true?

I was going to comment that our offense looks best when we pick up the pace, particularly the second drive of the game that ended in the Hill TD and last drive in regulation. Offense executes so much better when we keep it simple and move at a faster tempo. And the rest of the time we seem to have no rhythm with Payton pulling cutesy yet predictable crap out of the playbook that everyone sees coming.

Rob Ryan also needs to dumb down, it seems like we throw all these different looks out there, where we would be better served calling more standard looking defenses with coverage disguises.

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Brees admittedly is not 100%, some of his throws were suspect and thankfully the Dallas defense can't catch, but his will to win cannot be replaced.

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First of all, Green Bay and New England are primarily good year after year because they have had Favre, Rodgers and Brady at QB. Even at this stage of his career, Brees is still one of the top QB's in the game.

Secondly, where have you been the last couple of years? The Saints have been in a major rebuild mode. Hell, there are EIGHT rookies on the defense alone. Yes, there have been a few unfortunate pickups, but nothing more drastic than those on most every other franchise. Oh, and the ongoing rebuild included bringing in Ireland and axing several player evaluation personnel from the front office.

Lastly, the first of the three so called lucky breaks on Brees passes was tipped at the line. The ball was deflected into an end over end trajectory that was nowhere near the target. Yes, it was lucky the pass wasn't picked, but that was not on Brees at all.

I'm sure giving blame is more enjoyable for some of you, but give credit where credit is due. Once again, Brees was constantly under pressure and was still able to find the open man and make all the throws when needed. I'm not ready to be a fan of a 3-13, 4-12 team again and that's exactly where we will be whenever Brees decides to call it quits.

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Rodgers was handed the keys to Green Bay loaded with a great O-line, WR's, TE.'s and RB.'s. They draft extreamly well and til' today have good depth. Brady took the reigns when Bleadso got hurt and has had "The Hoodie" build great teams around his ability. Saints haven't drafted well and have little to no depth at any position, those teams have rebuilt. Saints have a long,long way to go to be stacked as good as those guys.

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I think the defensive positions we drafted for in 2014 will make us more successful in a couple seasons time, however we need to address O line and WR next draft.

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I agree, but this year's draft appears to be very good. And before Brady's first full season at QB, the Patriots only had FOUR winning seasons over the previous 12 years. They were one of the worst franchises over that stretch.

As for the Packers pre-Favre years, they only had ONE season with over eight wins in 20 years! The first year Rodgers took over he only managed six wins so it wasn't the depth of talent. Once Rodgers got his feet under him he has been the sole reason the Packers have remained viable.

QB's like Brady, Favre, Rodgers, Brees, Manning, Montana and such are few and far between. You don't cut ties unless you have a Rodgers, a Luck or a Steve Young ready to go in the wings. It may be a decade or more before the Saints have a shot at a difference maker like Brees. It doesn't matter the makeup of the rest of the roster, if you do not have the QB you are not going to be successful for the long run.

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O-line and depth on the O-line, 1 big body WR would be a +. D-line with depth and lb, with depth. It will take 2 seasons worth of draft to do this. So which leaves the question which side firsr theO or the D. And this depends on the draft picks. What a mess.

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I agree to a point but is Brees at 30 million worth it if he's not surronded by a stacked deck? Even with a restucture same question, is he worth it without a stacked deck? Or do we pull a Green Bay or San Fran and get the picks. I haven't seen Grayson enough to take the keys and run with it but you got to look at Rodgers and what they did with him, sat until Favre left.Brees does give us the better chance right now but he's not surronded by the best cast of characters right now either.

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Go back to the 13 - 3 SB year and tell me how many "lucky" wins were in there? I know, good teams make their own luck but you can't deny it's better to be lucky and good. Oh yes I know it wasn't a "quality" win! LOL Damned if you don't, damned if you do! A win is a win. Did anyone else notice the FA kicker from Tulane was 7 for 7?

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we will see

I for one say let him walk off the field and into the Hall as a saints

on the other hand

If he spends his last few years getting beat up I say let him go and trade him to a team that is a heart beat away from a super bowl. Some one posted earlier about the Jets. Last year of his contract makes it a bit more sense able for teams in the market. pipe dream value? 3 firsts maybe 2016 2017 2018? Besides if Drew is the answer in NY those last two could very well be #32 in the draft. with out drew we would be top ten it a few years so it would end up being picks 32 and 33. lets see the saints the saints screw that up.

As a fan of Drew I would rather see him chasing rings in final years than getting beat up over loyalty.

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The Patriots went to the super in '96 and made the playoffs in '97 and '98. They were a .500 team in '99 before finally having a bad year in 2000. That's not what I call one of the worst franchises of that time. As for Favre, yes he was a good player, but Mike Holmgren was a pretty good coach who got that franchise turned around. He managed to take Seattle to the SB with freaking Matt Hasselbeck.

It takes good QB to be able to sustain success, but it also takes good coaching to get the most out of your team.

As for Drew, I don't know that he's still one of the elite QB's until I see him get healthy. Right now, he is not elite. Sure we won a game last night, but we weren't really playing world beaters, and it was short passes until late.

You can get away with that when you're playing a banged up team. In order for us to be a good team, he has to be healthy and make ALL the throws. Just my opinion.

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NEVER!!!!