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burningmetal 10-08-2015 10:30 AM
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There are a lot of really good O-linemen who come from LSU and all over the south. Some freaking maulers, and they are dispersed throughout the draft, not just the first couple rounds. But we keep going after these small school and/or project guys from crappy teams in crappy conferences hoping to get lucky again. That grinds my gears.

I know Peat is from Stanford, but he's not exactly a mauler. I still hate that pick.

halloween 65 10-08-2015 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 674039)
There are a lot of really good O-linemen who come from LSU and all over the south. Some freaking maulers, and they are dispersed throughout the draft, not just the first couple rounds. But we keep going after these small school and/or project guys from crappy teams in crappy conferences hoping to get lucky again. That grinds my gears.

I know Peat is from Stanford, but he's not exactly a mauler. I still hate that pick.
I can't say I hate the pick, but I can say I don't understand the pick. He was supposedly the best availible LT on the board, why use that pick when we have Armstead could have used a 4th on a reliable project instead of a 1st. Before we traded for a C I was screaming for a C(we got a good C now) and a C/G or a pure G. I also thought Strief had this year in him(which he might) and next season look for a RT. Problem is the F.O. doesn't see things my way. We could be stacked the O-line with a little preventive maintaince every year but these people don't know how to draft sucessfully. There were a few good C and G in this draft, I really didn't research any T truethfully. I believe Hagen did!!

halloween 65 10-08-2015 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 674039)
There are a lot of really good O-linemen who come from LSU and all over the south. Some freaking maulers, and they are dispersed throughout the draft, not just the first couple rounds. But we keep going after these small school and/or project guys from crappy teams in crappy conferences hoping to get lucky again. That grinds my gears.

I know Peat is from Stanford, but he's not exactly a mauler. I still hate that pick.
LSU has one coming to the draft I though was coming out last year, your right a freakin' mauler. Wouldn't mind that freak RB. either.

WhoDat!656 10-08-2015 02:05 PM
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"Hills' said he last worked out for New Orleans two years ago, so his primary attraction to the Saints was likely that he was experienced, in shape and a quick learner.

He said he's not worried about the length of his tenure.

"I'll just grind every day, leave it in God's hands and let the chips fall where they may," he said."

New Orleans Saints lineman Tony Hills, on 10th team, not ready to quit NFL journey | NOLA.com

Rugby Saint II 10-08-2015 04:35 PM
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Ya'll make sure that Payton gets these notes. Ya'll are soo right.........mostly!:wink:

Crusader 10-08-2015 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 674000)
Crusader I'd Love, absolutely Love to give Vanderbilt to the ACC and/or Missouri back to the Big 12 and have Clemson in the SEC- East...

But, alas, Clemson is in the ACC...

I'd take Clemson and Georgia Tech (back) to the SEC and give Vandy and Missouri to their neighboring markets...
You sir are of course correct. I compiled the list in quite the haste.

WillSaints81 10-08-2015 06:20 PM
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Okay there may actually be a defense in the Big 12.......Iowa State, that school seems to usually hold the big 12 scoring offenses to lower point totals than anyone else.

MarchingOn 10-08-2015 07:28 PM
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[QUOTE=ikecomp;673904]Well, that's not entirely fair. The saints actually did go after collins once the draft ended. But he just chose to go to Dallas. It was his decision in the end. Nothing Payton or Loomis could do about that. Payton actually had multiple conversations with him but he could tell Collins wanted to get as far away from the situation as possible.

Yes, but that's why they call it a draft.

Should've drafted him in the 7th then Collins wouldn't have a choice and we'd likely have a new ROT with Streif our swingman.

Yeah, I know Murphy is a good returner and RB but a better ROT is more valuable now and we could've have traded any pick down to grab another 7th and have had both.

MarchingOn 10-08-2015 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 674031)
Well I just went back and looked at Payton's draft history with the Saints and there are really only a couple of years when a LSU player went right after the Saints picked. 2011 we picked Martez Wilson and Steven Ridley went a couple picks later, 2013 we picked Vaccaro and Eric Reid went a couple picks later. 2014 would be the one I would call a miss and that is where we picked SJB and could have picked Jarvis Landry. The others I would call a wash. We picked a need at the time and some didn't work out.
The other point I would like to make is most of the picks that didn't work out came from larger schools, majority of the smaller school picks have worked out. Evans, Colston, Bushrod was, Robinson and Armstead looks to be a good one.
Yes! Just think if we'd drafted WR Landry as you said instead of bust CB SJB. Our WR corps would be (practically) fixed for quite a while using our 1st two picks last year on WRs if a draft deep in WRs. Would've loved WR Janis who GB took in the 7th, too.

MarchingOn 10-08-2015 07:34 PM
Re: Saints sign Veteran Offensive Lineman Tony Hills
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 674031)
Well I just went back and looked at Payton's draft history with the Saints and there are really only a couple of years when a LSU player went right after the Saints picked. 2011 we picked Martez Wilson and Steven Ridley went a couple picks later, 2013 we picked Vaccaro and Eric Reid went a couple picks later. 2014 would be the one I would call a miss and that is where we picked SJB and could have picked Jarvis Landry. The others I would call a wash. We picked a need at the time and some didn't work out.
The other point I would like to make is most of the picks that didn't work out came from larger schools, majority of the smaller school picks have worked out. Evans, Colston, Bushrod was, Robinson and Armstead looks to be a good one.
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 674060)
I can't say I hate the pick, but I can say I don't understand the pick. He was supposedly the best availible LT on the board, why use that pick when we have Armstead could have used a 4th on a reliable project instead of a 1st. Before we traded for a C I was screaming for a C(we got a good C now) and a C/G or a pure G. I also thought Strief had this year in him(which he might) and next season look for a RT. Problem is the F.O. doesn't see things my way. We could be stacked the O-line with a little preventive maintaince every year but these people don't know how to draft sucessfully. There were a few good C and G in this draft, I really didn't research any T truethfully. I believe Hagen did!!
We passed on OG Jackson with our 2nd pick in the 3rd (took CB PJ) and he lasted til top of the 4th. Passed on L. Collins in the 5th-7th.


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