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WhoDat!656 10-15-2015 07:24 AM

Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
I notice he didn't explain how having Graham would offset the defense hemorrhaging points and yards!

Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade

The Seattle Seahawks are not doing much with Jimmy Graham, and the New Orleans are pathetic without him.

Additionally, the Seahawks' offensive line is atrocious, and center Max Unger’s absence is clearly missed based on the 22 sacks Russell Wilson has endured. And why the Seahawks are not getting Graham more involved in the game plan is incredibly baffling. Graham has only 21 receptions for 204 yards and two touchdowns in five weeks.

As for the Saints, they are in incredibly poor shape with a terrible 1-4 record. How has trading away Graham, who was Drew Brees’ best offensive weapon, a smart move? We have to believe the Saints would have more than one lousy win if Graham were still in town.

Nothing at all makes sense in what was the most shocking, and now seemingly the most botched trade of the free-agency period.

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QBREES9 10-15-2015 08:37 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
We got Max Unger!!!!

Papa Voodoo 10-15-2015 09:01 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Imagine how bad it would be for our O line if Unger wasn't in there.

SaintsBro 10-15-2015 09:52 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
The main difference with Graham not being "more involved in the game plan" and "not doing much" in Seattle is....Drew Brees. Drew Brees is like a super computer, or Robocop, a Terminator type QB....he can go to the line and scan the defense, read what he sees, process the information, and size up the matchups as favorable or unfavorable. He can literally see things in the upcoming play before they even happen. Wilson simply doesn't have that kind of built-in supercomputer, the ability to process information on the fly. You can't "involve somebody in the game plan" if your quarterback can't read the defense and process the info, to create a favorable situation.

foreverfan 10-15-2015 10:17 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 675412)
We got Max Unger!!!!

Wow... just think we might be -1 and 4 without him.

lumm0x 10-15-2015 10:58 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
They can claim with a straight face we didn't do well dumping an overpaid guy for a one of the best centers in the league and a first round pick that might be a generation starter for us? I agree losing Jimmy has hurt us offensively but we did well in that trade. I have zero doubt.

blackangold 10-15-2015 11:22 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 675431)
They can claim with a straight face we didn't do well dumping an overpaid guy for a one of the best centers in the league and a first round pick that might be a generation starter for us? I agree losing Jimmy has hurt us offensively but we did well in that trade. I have zero doubt.

It might help us in the future but from these drive-by sports writers they hardly look at the ground 2 feet in front of them, I seriously doubt they'll have the foresight to see how this deal effects the future.

Beastmode 10-15-2015 11:54 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
We don't have #1 or #2 receiver anymore. All our options are fair to poor. Even if we had a solid OL they would still struggle. All of them can be handled in single coverage most of the time.

UK_WhoDat 10-15-2015 12:38 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
The only party that benefitted from the trade was Jimmy Graham.
Ditto if the trade had not occurred.

Rugby Saint II 10-15-2015 12:45 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
What? Hardly any mention of Anthony?

saintsfan1976 10-15-2015 01:45 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Still too early to tell.

vpheughan 10-16-2015 05:11 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
This board is the winner in that trade!!!

bobdog86 10-16-2015 05:26 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Disagree, it is not the meat of the trade, Unger vs Graham, but Tyler Lockett and Anthony. The success of the trade for both teams are these two fellas and I say both came out smellin pretty dang good.

ScottF 10-16-2015 05:47 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
After the fact, hypothetical question:
Would you trade Jimmy Graham to get Stephone Anthony?
Second in tackles, 1 sack, 3 PD, and, wait for it, on the field for 97% of all defensive snaps

Oh, and we got Unger.

AlaskaSaints 10-16-2015 06:04 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Jimmy WHO?

I don't miss his DROPS in key drives one bit.

The Dude 10-16-2015 08:04 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
because Graham would give up on blocking assignments putting our QB at risk. That kind of attitude is contagious and doesnt do anything to help the team, I dont care who you are. We were also able to shave a little bit off the cap. We got the better end of the deal believe me. Unger may not look like much here yet, but he has only played 3 games with an entirely new offensive line. It takes an oline weeks, sometimes a season to gel. Continuity is the MOST important thing at that position. Not only is he new to the fold, having other players who have worked together go down every game doesnt help.
Looks like we may have a little depth at LT. When Peat went down I didnt see much of a drop off. The line should be much better after the bye week.

jeanpierre 10-16-2015 08:32 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
B-U-L-L-S-H-*-T

We totally smoked Seattle in that trade...

We gave up a bloated contract with a player who already put one foot in retirement (kinda like Major League II (movie) where the players get all civilized)...

We got an All-Pro in return and a first round pick which...

We got a potential Defensive Rookie of the Year (though our second round pick is probably going to negate each other's chances)...

So how the hell that trade didn't work out for us absolutely baffles me...

These yardbarker writers need to quit regurgitating other sports hacks and actually watch the games and have a grasp of R-E-A-L-I-T-Y...

MaggieMayTB 10-16-2015 08:38 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Try watching a Seattle game with a shot glass.
Pour yourself a shot.
Drink that shot when Jimmy and blocking are mentioned.
Repeat,

Guaranteed drunk before the half.

hagan714 10-16-2015 08:54 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Max Unger? I will judge him like so many players on this team, when all players are healthy and have some games under their belt. we have yet to see this so far this year. I am even trying to give Rob the same break.

SmashMouth 10-16-2015 09:05 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaggieMayTB (Post 676057)
Try watching a Seattle game with a shot glass.
Pour yourself a shot.
Drink that shot when Jimmy and blocking are mentioned.
Repeat,

Guaranteed drunk before the half.

Need pics of you playing this game...

RaginCajun83 10-16-2015 09:59 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Loomis raped Seattle is this deal

Exxcalibur 10-16-2015 10:14 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 676026)
Jimmy WHO?

I don't miss his DROPS in key drives one bit.

I dont miss his drooping mouth petulance and softness at the line of scrimmage either.

Audiotom 10-17-2015 01:32 AM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Seattles offense has sure imploded without Unger

We will get a key receiver piece soon

Watson looked solid
Cooks needs to find a way to beat their #1 or double teams

vpheughan 10-18-2015 04:41 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Jimmy got a penalty and dropped a pass so far! Now I see why he's gone.

brees84 10-18-2015 04:43 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 676296)
Jimmy got a penalty and dropped a pass so far! Now I see why he's gone.

And that was Roman Harper in coverage.

Cruize 10-18-2015 05:16 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
The Saints have two starters and the Seahawks are somehow dumbfounded as to how to use Jimmy.

Jankman8 10-18-2015 06:10 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
They sure found a way today.

vpheughan 10-18-2015 06:20 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Some TE named Olson is tearing up the "Legion of Boom". Sound familiar?

voodooido 10-18-2015 06:25 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 675412)
We got Max Unger!!!!

And a MLB that will be dominant for years to come.

|Mitch| 10-18-2015 07:11 PM

Re: Nobody is benefiting from the Jimmy Graham trade
 
Jimmy had his first 100 yard receiving game with the 'Hawks today. 117 yards, I believe...


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