Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling
 

As Saints fans we are emotional, angry, sad, and want to place blame for the 1-4 start. This week the fingers are pointing to the timeless fan favorite of "Sean Payton's play calling is TERRIBLE!" My emails this week and people yelling at me on Twitter are all, "Payton has lost the fire, he's not aggressive, he needs to let Pete Carmichael call plays!"

I've never been big on "If the Saints would just call better plays, they'd win" eulogizing.

The theory of "Pete Carmichael called plays in 2011 and 2012 and the Saints offense was GREAT, so do that and things will get better" is delusion and denial on a magnificent scale. The 2015 Saints are like the 2011 Saints the same way Earnest Hemingway and I are both writers. Both things appear exactly alike from 20,000 miles away. It's only up close you realize things are very different.

As fans it's very difficult for us to let go of what the Saints were. Oh sure during the week we tell ourselves the Saints are rebuilding and they aren't any good on offense anymore but on game day Drew Brees is still the quarterback and we want the MAGIC! Why can't Sean Payton find it? It has to be in there somewhere?

Forecast: Saints problems are from lack of talent, not play-calling

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Thats a good piece of writing. I agre with most everything in there.

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The Saints offense of years past could fall behind 10 or 14 points and bounce back. Payton had Brees, Jimmy Graham, Devery Henderson, Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas to dial up big plays for. He also had an offensive line that could hold together in 'must pass' situations. In 2015 the Saints have none of those things.

This is the truth!!!

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Gee I wonder what changed....

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No talent = bad drafting.

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Receivers are lost for the most part, takes time to build that that consistency. We were doing great for a while, introducing a new target here and there but this season it's too many new faces. It will get better but likely not until it is too late.

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Pretty much...

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Oh my goodness!

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Well we haven't been able to run the ball because of the teams we play. We will have an easier time coming up and maybe that helps. As for tonight, I'm not sure where the weakness on Atlanta's secondary is.

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And who's fault is it that we have a lack of talent?

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Ok, right, talent....
and we have rookies starting too......

What about the veterans on this team GASSED out and who look out of shape? What about the veterans fumbling, throwing INT's, missing tackles, missed kicks, shank punts, defenders taking the wrong angles, and veterans producing tons of flags without the help of our rookies' inexperience?

How about some sound fundamental football? I think we'd accept a 4 win season if it wasn't riddled with flags, fumbles, drops, int's, missed tackles, missed kicks (don't even get me started on special olympics teams).

When you run the ball, hold onto it with both hands. When sacked, tuck it in. When passed to, catch the ball with two hands before running!!!!

My nephews high school team looks 10 times more disciplined then the Saints do right now.

Here's also a novel idea - how about a gameplan that matches our talent AND or the talent that is injured, half broke, or practically incapable to performing at their position?

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Throw this playbook away. That is a start.

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When defenders know our plays, and from what I've seen they do, that's play calling, not players

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Hopefully the Big Lebowski doesn't drop Kikaha in coverage 50% of the time tonight.

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Couldn't disagree more with the article. Really there is no base of facts to assert this position either. All I see is another person's opinion that someone else is wrong.

Fact is Payton called plays in 2011 before he was injured. Once he got hurt Carmichael took over and we broke records. Payton was not a bad play caller but everyone on this site can predict the play-call simply by looking at down and distance combined with the formation we are running. If we can do that you bet your a$$ that any DC in the league can as well.

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okay boy i'm glad I hadn't responded to this post earlier we won we won in a laugher my goodness.