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WhoDat!656 10-26-2015 11:42 AM

50 things we learned in Week 7 in the NFL
 
I hope he doesn't make a habit out of this!

9. Saints coach Sean Payton was 0-for-2 on replay challenges in the first quarter. He was also out of timeouts with 50 seconds to go in the first quarter. The first quarter!

10. Of course, Payton’s team was up 14-0 at the end of that quarter, so maybe he is onto something.

50 things we learned in Week 7 in the NFL

dizzle88 10-26-2015 11:44 AM

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The second challenge was very odd

Firstly, Watson didn't make the first down even with the outstretched hand.
Secondly, if your going to run a fake FG, then why challenge the previous play?

saintsfan1976 10-26-2015 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 677330)
The second challenge was very odd

Firstly, Watson didn't make the first down even with the outstretched hand.
Secondly, if your going to run a fake FG, then why challenge the previous play?

Payton knew what he was doing all along.

Challenging the previous play was just the first part of his deception.

K Major 10-26-2015 02:28 PM

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Week to week league.

nola_swammi 10-26-2015 02:41 PM

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That second red flag look legitimate. I thought and still think that was a catch.

jlaw8920 10-26-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 677357)
That second red flag look legitimate. I thought and still think that was a catch.

I completely agree that it should have been called a catch. However, as someone mentioned above, it still wouldn't have given us a first down.

burningmetal 10-26-2015 04:04 PM

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That second red flag look legitimate. I thought and still think that was a catch.

So do I. I heard John Lynch (who was absurdly annoying throughout the entire broadcast) and Mike Pereira try to explain the rules to us for the billionth time, and they were all completely missing the point, just like the refs on the field. They kept saying how he didn't complete the process to the ground, but he had two feet, then two knees on the ground and reaches out for the first down when the ground finally knocks it out.

That is possession and a football move. It's not the same as a guy leaping for a ball and coming straight down and having the ball pop out on impact. He had clear control of the ball and REACHED.

How is it that when a guy catches the ball standing upright, catches the ball and takes two steps with some type of "football move", and the defender knocks it out, it's called a fumble. Thus declaring that the receiver had control... But if the receiver gets two feet and two knees (the equivalent of at least two steps) and makes football move in reaching out, but the ball gets knocked out by the ground it is suddenly incomplete?

Did any of that even make sense? There are rules in what makes a catch that contradict other rules that make a catch. And beyond that, it seems like no rule involving a catch is interpreted the same way twice in a row. The NFL remains a joke.

foreverfan 10-26-2015 04:07 PM

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What was harder to believe than the ball being complete on the challanges was that, we were winning by halftime.

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burningmetal 10-26-2015 04:07 PM

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I completely agree that it should have been called a catch. However, as someone mentioned above, it still wouldn't have given us a first down.

If they had ruled it as a catch as they should have, then they would have also had to spot it where he reached out. He would have been maybe a half yard short, and from where we were on the field Payton was surely going to go for it. There's no other reason he would have challenged.

I think not getting the call made him angry and influenced going for the fake.

RaginCajun83 10-26-2015 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 677372)
So do I. I heard John Lynch (who was absurdly annoying throughout the entire broadcast) and Mike Pereira try to explain the rules to us for the billionth time, and they were all completely missing the point, just like the refs on the field. They kept saying how he didn't complete the process to the ground, but he had two feet, then two knees on the ground and reaches out for the first down when the ground finally knocks it out.

That is possession and a football move. It's not the same as a guy leaping for a ball and coming straight down and having the ball pop out on impact. He had clear control of the ball and REACHED.

How is it that when a guy catches the ball standing upright, catches the ball and takes two steps with some type of "football move", and the defender knocks it out, it's called a fumble. Thus declaring that the receiver had control... But if the receiver gets two feet and two knees (the equivalent of at least two steps) and makes football move in reaching out, but the ball gets knocked out by the ground it is suddenly incomplete?

Did any of that even make sense? There are rules in what makes a catch that contradict other rules that make a catch. And beyond that, it seems like no rule involving a catch is interpreted the same way twice in a row. The NFL remains a joke.

It's stupid crap like this that is starting to make me more interested in college football over the NFL

mleg1972 10-27-2015 08:00 AM

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Payton said if he didn't challenge the 2nd call, he wouldn't have run the fake because the ball would have been spotted on the other hash. The fake was designed to run off the right hash.

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jonnyrotten 10-27-2015 09:26 AM

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Payton said if he didn't challenge the 2nd call, he wouldn't have run the fake because the ball would have been spotted on the other hash. The fake was designed to run off the right hash.

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Exactly, the challenge was completed to set up the fake. The smirk Payton gave when he challenged kind of tipped off that he had a plan. I love it, the aggressive Sean Payton came back to play this past weekend. The team fed off it.

RaginCajun83 10-27-2015 10:21 AM

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51. The stupid ass refs couldn't see a hold in the endzone during the Saints/ Colts game that would of given the Saints 2 more points

burningmetal 10-27-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mleg1972 (Post 677470)
Payton said if he didn't challenge the 2nd call, he wouldn't have run the fake because the ball would have been spotted on the other hash. The fake was designed to run off the right hash.

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He really said that? I don't get it... He lost the challenge. So it was going to be spotted on the right hash without him challenging. I think he's trolling the media on that one.

Rugby Saint II 10-27-2015 01:01 PM

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He was going to pull a fake somewhere in the game. Just like he was going to run ambush in the Superbowl.


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