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WhoDat!656 11-11-2015 01:37 PM

Saints Tried Out 11 Players Including CB Bradley Fletcher & WR Greg Salas
 
The New Orleans Saints brought in five players for tryouts including CB Bradley Fletcher, CB Chris Owens, WR Preston Parker, WR Aldrick Robinson, and WR Greg Salas, according to Howard Balzer.

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jnormand 11-11-2015 01:41 PM

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Payton didn't do this last season did he? (Except w/kickers). I feel like he's doing this so no one feels like their job is safe. All I know is we need Breaux and Lewis to start. Browners role needs to change.

voodooido 11-11-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 680494)
Payton didn't do this last season did he? (Except w/kickers). I feel like he's doing this so no one feels like their job is safe. All I know is we need Breaux and Lewis to start. Browners role needs to change.


Browner's role needs to be house wife. The guy is trash and a flag machine. He should be moved to safety and be a backup at best.

Danno 11-11-2015 03:31 PM

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IIRC he's done this every year. Perhaps a slight uptick but I don't think its anything other than due diligence.

blackangold 11-11-2015 03:56 PM

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Can we try out new DCs?

Would be hilarious if Payton brings in 11 DCs for interviews...lol

Euphoria 11-11-2015 03:58 PM

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Yeah they do this all year they kick tires all the time...

They had enough time in the off season... to late to find anyone that is going to come in and help... wait let me rethink this... we have like 40 starting positions that we need to fill according to my calculations.

SaintFanQ 11-11-2015 04:17 PM

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11 players brought in for tryouts!!!!!!

My suggestion to you guys is don't buy a jersey with you favourite players name on the back, whoever it is, because there's a chance that before you get it home from the shop he won't be on the team anymore!!

That also goes for the Saints calendar!! lol!

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

ikecomp 11-11-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 680508)
Can we try out new DCs?

Would be hilarious if Payton brings in 11 DCs for interviews...lol

I can't express how hard this made me laugh. The sad part is that this is what needs to be done cause this defense hasn't been decent since greg williams left. With greg williams you always had to worry about giving up the big play at the wrong time or too much blitzing but you didn't really worry about hemorrhaging yards all game.

We're now dealing with big plays, too many yards and too much confusion.

Back on topic, none of the names I've seen will make any meaningful impact. We have the tools we need to score and move the ball. Let me know when we start trying out Offensive/Defensive lineman. That is where this team really struggles and needs help.

dizzle88 11-11-2015 05:37 PM

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Breaux has allowed 6 TD's and a 2 point conversion in 3 weeks

3 to Beckham, 2 on the same playcall
2 when he tripped defending TY Hilton
1 to Justin Hunter when he gave a 10 yard cushion on 1st and goal.

He may be better than Browner (which isn't difficult) but he hasn't exactly been a bright spark.

Danno 11-11-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 680518)
Breaux has allowed 6 TD's and a 2 point conversion in 3 weeks

3 to Beckham, 2 on the same playcall
2 when he tripped defending TY Hilton
1 to Justin Hunter when he gave a 10 yard cushion on 1st and goal.

He may be better than Browner (which isn't difficult) but he hasn't exactly been a bright spark.


But after 8 games he was our 3rd highest rated player on our entire defense behind Cam Jordan and Kevin Williams.

I'd say that a pretty bright spark.

burningmetal 11-11-2015 06:00 PM

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Ho hum. As usual, just pointless game board pieces being played with. Nobody that will help. Bench Browner and replace him with ANYONE. That is the best way to improve the defense. The rest will have to wait for the off season.

Danno 11-11-2015 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 680526)
Ho hum. As usual, just pointless game board pieces being played with. Nobody that will help. Bench Browner and replace him with ANYONE. That is the best way to improve the defense. The rest will have to wait for the off season.

The guys we're looking at aren't intended to be answers to this seasons problems.

They are simply evaluations of what they may or may not be able to offer to us in the future.

We're building a list of candidates for possible future employment, documenting their strengths and weaknesses to see if perhaps they may be a fit for a future role player.

The next Luke Kuechly isn't jumping from team to team trying to land a spot. This is bottom roster role player evaluation. Most are trying out for special teams or a spot on the 2016 camp roster.

Why can't people see that?

K Major 11-11-2015 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 680526)
Bench Browner and replace him with ANYONE. That is the best way to improve the defense. The rest will have to wait for the off season.

This ^^^^^^. Browner simply needs to have a seat. It's best for the team. When the season is over, fess up and admit it was a mistake and you cut him :pissed:.

burningmetal 11-11-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 680527)
The guys we're looking at aren't intended to be answers to this seasons problems.

They are simply evaluations of what they may or may not be able to offer to us in the future.

We're building a list of candidates for possible future employment, documenting their strengths and weaknesses to see if perhaps they may be a fit for a future role player.

The next Luke Kuechly isn't jumping from team to team trying to land a spot. This is bottom roster role player evaluation. Most are trying out for special teams or a spot on the 2016 camp roster.

Why can't people see that?

Thank you, sherlock holmes. How stupid do you really think I am? The point was that it doesn't matter. It isn't interesting. You had a whole off-season to find role players, and all of next off-season to find role players. These guys aren't good enough to be on a team this deep into the season, so what should we expect from them now, or in the future? These players stink, but we're looking at them anyway? Stop hoping for a diamond in the rough and do a better job evaluating talent BEFORE the season. Do you understand?

We see all this mindless crap going on mid-week, every week, but on the field (where it matters) they aren't smart enough to recognize who the worst player on the field is (Browner).

saintfan 11-11-2015 06:45 PM

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SmashMouth 11-11-2015 06:49 PM

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Danno 11-11-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 680530)
Thank you, sherlock holmes.

Stopped reading your childish BS right there...

hagan714 11-11-2015 07:13 PM

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kicking tires and lighting fires at the NFL bone yard. Never know you might find a beater with a few miles left in it.

halloween 65 11-11-2015 07:23 PM

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Browner has been bad but all but 2 games the entire D has too. Our pass rush hasn't been very consistant and their middle is always exposed in the run game, the lb.'ers aren't able to contend with TE's or close down the open hole in the middle left by the line and our cb.'s get torched by the front 7's play. Single stats good or bad mean absoluetly nothing if the D can't become a unit, they might as well all be watching on the bench. I totally blame this on the coaching staff from top to bottom, Johnson, Vitt and Allen have been together long enough to know how to accordiate the front 7 no matter who the DC is. Allen is suppose to be the secondary guru, well they stink also, for many years these 3 clowns have milked the Saints cashing check after check with little to no results, time to get people in here that can earn a paycheck and not hold their hands out for free cheese like those 3. Ryan should go also not that I don't like him but a total rework of the D scheme needs to happen.

K Major 11-11-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 680540)
I totally blame this on the coaching staff from top to bottom, Johnson, Vitt and Allen have been together long enough to know how to accordiate the front 7 no matter who the DC is. Ryan should go also not that I don't like him but a total rework of the D scheme needs to happen.

No doubt H65. Rob R has been pretty bad every where he has gone whose scheme is constantly complained about as too complex for players to succeed in. Take Byrd for example ... sure he seems like an overpaid FA who hasn't lived up to the salary but this guy was ELITE at the position before he got into Rob's system (even before the injury, appeared lost in NO). I simply can't believe Byrd forgot how to play safety.

Side note: Mr. Vitt is more of a figure head these days. We got two other new guys coaching the LB's.

saintfan 11-11-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 680536)
Stopped reading your childish BS right there...

Whew...
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burningmetal 11-11-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 680536)
Stopped reading your childish BS right there...

Childish? Calling you THAT was childish? You know how many ways there are to call a person a self- absorbed, wannabe know it all? Would you prefer I call you captain obvious?

Telling me that try-out players in the middle of the season won't include the likes of Luke Keuchly was the most condescending and dumbest thing anyone has told me on here in a long time. You don't care about the point that anyone is trying to make, you just want to be THAT GUY who comes in and tells everyone why they're stupid, and how you're somehow enlightened.

Listen, everyone has an opinion and there are going to be disagreements. Ultimately we're all fans, and sometimes emotions override all other reason. But when I see a guy who wants to point out the most obvious things, over and over, and act like no one else is smart enough to figure it out, I lose my patience. Nobody is expecting great players to be found. It's all pointless. Bringing in young players who are unknown and might have a chance to turn into something... That's one thing.

Bringing in old guys, or players who have been around long enough to know that they aren't any good? Boring. That's my opinion. I don't care how much it goes on, and whether or not it "harms anything". I want to hear news about making adjustments on defense, especially as it pertains to Browner. That's why I say that these players won't help. It's not because I expect help to be out there, it's because there IS no help and we're spinning our wheels on a bunch of nobody's that frustrates me. It's tired news.

jnormand 11-11-2015 09:33 PM

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Ok I'm sorry but some of the comments on this thread have me in tears!!!

burningmetal 11-11-2015 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 680540)
Browner has been bad but all but 2 games the entire D has too. Our pass rush hasn't been very consistant and their middle is always exposed in the run game, the lb.'ers aren't able to contend with TE's or close down the open hole in the middle left by the line and our cb.'s get torched by the front 7's play. Single stats good or bad mean absoluetly nothing if the D can't become a unit, they might as well all be watching on the bench. I totally blame this on the coaching staff from top to bottom, Johnson, Vitt and Allen have been together long enough to know how to accordiate the front 7 no matter who the DC is. Allen is suppose to be the secondary guru, well they stink also, for many years these 3 clowns have milked the Saints cashing check after check with little to no results, time to get people in here that can earn a paycheck and not hold their hands out for free cheese like those 3. Ryan should go also not that I don't like him but a total rework of the D scheme needs to happen.

Absolutely. That defensive staff needs to go. There is much blame to go around from coaches to players. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done till the off-season, so in the mean time it's frustrating that they can't at least put the best AVAILABLE players out there. Someone who at least gives you a chance. But that in and of itself is a further indictment on that staff.

44Champs 11-11-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 680530)
Thank you, sherlock holmes. How stupid do you really think I am? The point was that it doesn't matter. It isn't interesting. You had a whole off-season to find role players, and all of next off-season to find role players. These guys aren't good enough to be on a team this deep into the season, so what should we expect from them now, or in the future? These players stink, but we're looking at them anyway? Stop hoping for a diamond in the rough and do a better job evaluating talent BEFORE the season. Do you understand?

We see all this mindless crap going on mid-week, every week, but on the field (where it matters) they aren't smart enough to recognize who the worst player on the field is (Browner).

I totally agree. I mentioned in another post that Loomis has done a terrible job bringing us good players over the last several years. Then Loomis, I mean Danno, refuted my post with some idiotic question about firing the whole scouting department.

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AlaskaSaints 11-11-2015 10:35 PM

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We're like part farm-team, part NFL football team. With a revolving door.

SmashMouth 11-11-2015 10:36 PM

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saintfan 11-11-2015 11:45 PM

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Oh well...

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dizzle88 11-12-2015 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 680525)
But after 8 games he was our 3rd highest rated player on our entire defense behind Cam Jordan and Kevin Williams.

I'd say that a pretty bright spark.

3rd highest rated player on the 31st ranked D in the league though.

jeanpierre 11-12-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 680572)
3rd highest rated player on the 31st ranked D in the league though.

Dizz, I gotta stick up for Breaux for these reasons and more...

First, this is, point of fact, his rookie season, his first NFL season...

Second, Payton and the defensive "brain trust" has flubbed it up until this recent draft when it comes to staffing, scheming the front seven...

Third, some dumb@$$, got the bright idea to give Cam Jordan a very near max contract and build our scheme around him - big mistake...

Fourth, even the backfield from last season was having to cover receivers waaaaay tooooo long because of a non-existent pass rush...

Not to mention the veteran teammates - Browner, Lewis, Byrd - have made so many gaffes keeping the opposition on the field...

You give professional football players that many multiple chances, well, even Revis gets burned when you take enough shots at him...

kelsobob 11-13-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 680576)
Dizz, I gotta stick up for Breaux for these reasons and more...

First, this is, point of fact, his rookie season, his first NFL season...

Second, Payton and the defensive "brain trust" has flubbed it up until this recent draft when it comes to staffing, scheming the front seven...

Third, some dumb@$$, got the bright idea to give Cam Jordan a very near max contract and build our scheme around him - big mistake...

Fourth, even the backfield from last season was having to cover receivers waaaaay tooooo long because of a non-existent pass rush...

Not to mention the veteran teammates - Browner, Lewis, Byrd - have made so many gaffes keeping the opposition on the field...

You give professional football players that many multiple chances, well, even Revis gets burned when you take enough shots at him...

In what universe was it a mistake to sign Cam Jordan for 11 Mill a year. Thats tied for 7th in the league for per year average.
He is the best player on the defense by a mile. He is pretty good as a pass rusher and a great run defender. He has no help on the line so he gets all the attention of the defensive line.
Not that I care too much for PFF but, they have him rated as the number one edge defender.

Rugby Saint II 11-14-2015 12:06 PM

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Loomis loves to spend Bensons money bringing in bottom of the roster players to see if we can use them since we don't hit on our drafts or free agency. Keep kicking the tires. Why not? It's kind of like shopping at a yard sale. Sometimes there is something you want and you get it at a good price.

Don't forget we brought in Snead toward the end of last year off of another teams PS. It's a good time to look around and see what you can do to build next years team. We may see several of these names on next years 90 man roster. Not only that we may need some depth later this year if we keep getting hit by injuries.


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