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Heck... I still say we go 10-6 !

New season after the bye week.

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Seeing our defense play I will be happy with 8-8

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It won't happen. I understand why it won't happen. But, the whole staff needs to be fired. Payton lost the team last year and was given a pass. The team didn't show up this week after folding to a lesser team last week. That's inexcusable. He has been the Head Coach during two of the worst defensive units in NFL history. He deserves as much blame for that as Ryan. The team has some young talent. Riding out a lousy season with the current staff will not be good for their development. The bye week is the perfect time.

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Yep, fire them all!

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I think the best approach is to fire the coaches who are primarily responsible for this mess. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Fire Ryan, he deserves it. Send a message. Lets see who keeps fighting their ass off and see who quits.

Keep the fighters, cut the quitters and bring in a new DC next year and let him have some control over his staff.

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LOL!!! Hilarious! Anythings possible I guess. But no really....you should put the pipe down bud. Lol.

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reminds of a line from that old favorite, Graduation Day. "Happy days are over.........."

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Same **** we said last year...

A big part of this is Payton too which is why I won't mind seeing him leave. All that crap JR was saying about this organization being dysfunctional was right.

Side note, these last few years have been worse than others I can remember as far as being a fan goes. Such high expectations going into 2014 and we were so bad; again we were promised change and improvement in 2015 yet we are worse. At least with previous Saints eras you didn't expect much so there was no let down ....

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This is the saddest post I have ever read here. Wow. I remember the Aaron Brooks years when a 2 - 3 game win streak was a huge party. Yep. This hurts. I can't see light at the end of the tunnel for the Saints.