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Its the perfect day to fire someone!

If they don't then I am jumping on the bandwagon to fire Sean!!!

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Coach Peyton said there will be no changes to his coaching staff

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No he didn't, don't spread false information.

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Re: Rob Ryan is going to get fired per Fox source
 

Sean Payton did not say that. He actually said there will be changes. Go back and watch the press conference.

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Rob Ryan is just one piece of the problems on defense

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hate to say it but I hope that meant multiple defensive coaches get fired

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It's coming folks.... Just be patient

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I will preface this rant by saying I was all for the hiring of Rob Ryan. I thought he would bring a similar emulation of Gregg Williams' attacking defense that would generate big takeaways. My mistake.

Rob Ryan should absolutely get fired. He has deteriorated this defense in just a few years. His first year was a total anomaly. He opened up what was a rigid, restricting and misplaced scheme from Spagnulo and allowed the players to play a scheme more suiting their style and abilities. They had been used to attacking and freelancing under Williams and didn't adapt to the strict defense of SPags. But then we lost a lot of veteran leadership from this defense. No more Harper, Jenkins, Vilma, Smith and I am certain this had a lot to do with helping his initial success.

Maybe these moves were implemented by Ryan and maybe not but I guarantee he had input and fingerprints on every defensive FA we brought in and I dare say they were all terrible moves. Until this year we got most of our defensive drafting and talent evaluation wrong. He has built what we see today. It's atrocious and he's had 3 years to do it. There is no reason to continue the madness.

Dennis Allen or whomever takes over is in no better position to succeed. It's not scheme anymore, it's effort, it's pride and it's heart and we have thrown in the towel on these.

On the bright side there are a few pieces to build off of but it is not a stocked cupboard of talent. In the secondary you keep Lewis, Swann and Breaux. Hopefully PJ Williams makes it back next year. Browner, Vaccaro, Byrd and Wilson can all walk away fast. LBers you keep Kikaha, Anthony and Ellerbe. No one else merits return. And on the line Cam Jordan is very good but needs help. I like Edebali as depth. Richardson and Davison are nice depth guys. Jenkins is a toss up and all else are free to go.

This team needs an impact player on every level of the defense and with our cap situation, barring creatively insane drafting and/or bargain finds in FA we have very little hope of this defense coming around for a few years. I love to watch solid defense and it is so sad to watch these guys.

Re: Rob Ryan is going to get fired per Fox source
 

Maybe he'll just quit.

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from what i just read online and what SP said, I'd be literally shocked if it wasn't announced very soon

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Only 2 years to late

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Not that it's all on Ryan, but something has to be done - that was the first Saints' game I can remember that I simply couldn't watch 'till the end.

It really doesn't matter that much if the moves they make will bring an immediate positive result, but some moves have to be made in order for the F/O and SP to save face.

I wanted Romeo after Spags, but ended up eating crow after Ryan had that strong first season - now I feel cheated and wronged that I had to take that crows life in vain.


On a side note, I don't think Vitt can be the scapegoat he has been for many years anymore, since they brought in a new positional coach for the LBs for this season.

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Payton has never put an emphasis on defense since he was hired. Ironically it was defense that got him suspended for a year, which led to his current situation. I'm not certain there is a remedy for this while he is the HC.

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I disagree. He fired his friend Gary Gibbs and hired GW.
When GW started sucking he hired Spags.
When Spags started sucking he hired Ryan.

We just suck at hiring DC's. It doesn't mean we don't emphasize it. Most of our drafts are defense oriented.

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This really shows how inept the scouting department has been for years. Ireland hit on as many defensive players (so far) as I'd want to say the last group did in a span of five years.

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You speak the truth.

Many of us have pointed out our draft suckage for several years now only to be beaten over the head with how awesome the 2006 draft was. :rolleyes:

BTW, that was freaking 10 years ago.

Re: Rob Ryan is going to get fired per Fox source
 

I don't see how this guy was ever hired in the first place.

Re: Rob Ryan is going to get fired per Fox source
 

Fire all their a$$es , not just Ryan. I hate to think if Allen wins just 2 of the remaining games we'll never get their a$$es out of here, it will be the same thing next season.

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Some people always have something to complain about.