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st thomas

11-17-2015 08:43 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

nothing will change, in a way rob is not fired he will draw a salary till contract runs out. being a non working employee he will have his insurance revoked and put on harp/Obama care. may all your dreams come true rob. I liked the hire at first, then you lost the players with your non-accountability /it will be alright guy it will come to you, right when hell freezes over. good luck whenever you drop that baby or turd that's in that garage.

saintfan

11-17-2015 11:29 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?

RaginCajun83

11-17-2015 11:59 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

(no expert) from what I've read Browner is best when covering a Tight End or playing man to man with safety help over the top. Ryan had him as an outside corner playing zone most of the time. Huh?

As long as Byrd is now not 30 yards off the line of scrimmage then I know they are trying to improve

Danno

11-17-2015 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 681696)

The players make plays.
Rob is gone now. Anybody thinking these guy's skill sets will improve?
They will still be slow and unable to cover.
They still won't be able to control the line of scrimmage.
And they still can't tackle.
I'm hoping they don't kill Allen's chances at getting a fair shake.
Maybe 5-6 keepers out of 25.
And we are broke.
All the Best Rob!

Disagree

Jordan
Jenkins
Anthony
Kikaha
Lewis
Swann
Breaux
Bush
Byrd
Ellerbe
Hawthorne

And I'd even say to a lesser extent...
KWilliams
Richardson
Davison
Edebali
Vaccaro

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

darstep

11-17-2015 05:03 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

5-6 keepers was a bit conservative. I might go to 8.
Jordan, Anthony, Kikaha, Edabali, Hawthorne, Lewis, Browner(if zone),
and just roll the dice on the 8th.
The rookies are balling most every week.
Having a good week and then disappearing for 2 weeks just won't cut it.
There has to be a pillar that can be counted on every week so we can build around it.
No consistency week to week; except the need to score +30 to stay in the game.
If suddenly these guys get new life and start doing what they haven't been able to do for 10 weeks,
there are other things going on and some soul searching is in order.

RaginCajun83

11-17-2015 05:07 PM

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Browner is trash in zone, as we've seen week in and week out here

skymike

11-17-2015 07:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 681607)

I know it had to be done but I feel terrible. I liked Ryan.

everybody really likes RR. He's a guys guy.... hes cool, and you can
have a beer with him. I wish he had better luck.

skymike

11-17-2015 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 681683)

Saints won't lose this week.

Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards &
4 TD passes.

RaginCajun83

11-17-2015 07:54 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 681875)

Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards &
4 TD passes.

And to Bye Week no less, damn this D can't buy a 3 and out

Audiotom

11-18-2015 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 681618)

If Allen can light a fire under D-Line coach Johnson, LB coach Vitt, secondary coach McGriff, and the rest of the defensive staff to get accountability from each of them, maybe we'll have something on defense. Ryan couldn't or wouldn't do this with the staff...too nice a guy, I reckon.

Our remaining defensive coaching staff is lazy garbage...that's a factor for why we're 32nd. Our players (veterans & rookies alike) look lost. It just seems Vitt & Johnson are "Made Men Capos" in the Payton Regime and not much will change until accountability happens with the defensive coaching staff. Just my opinion.

There is no responsibility, no accountability

Sean has no passion for the game and is showing no emotions towards the problems that need fixing

This weeks comments

"Well, we didn't check iff one box on the list of things to accomplish"

Bring Jim Mora back

Audiotom

11-18-2015 11:48 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 681819)

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

JPPT1974

11-19-2015 02:42 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Well wonder where Rob Ryan will show up next?

dizzle88

11-19-2015 03:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 682080)

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Strange to think that Vaccaro has been around the ball more than a 56 million dollar "Ball Hawk"

FinSaint

11-19-2015 06:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 681819)

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

I thought Foster was released in the off-season.

CharityMike

11-19-2015 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 681809)

Its simple really, if Browner is in zone, he is screwed. The guy is slow. His "supposed" strength was his ability to jam a receiver at the line and throw them off there route. I haven't seen much of this but is it his fault or RR for the way he was being told to play?

darksoul35

11-19-2015 12:29 PM

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I wish the best for the dude. after his first year I really thought it was a perfect fit. I was wrong. I still feel horrible wishing for someone to lose their job.

K Major

11-19-2015 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 682080)

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position :smokin:.

dizzle88

11-19-2015 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 682133)

If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

Danno

11-19-2015 06:33 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 682151)

If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

jeanpierre

11-20-2015 03:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 682156)

I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

No, but investing as we did when even Bills fans were laughing at us seems pretty evident now...

And we've had way too many gaffes vs successes in free agency these past few seasons...

foreverfan

11-20-2015 05:02 AM

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