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Audiotom 11-18-2015 11:48 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 681819)
Disagree

Jordan
Jenkins
Anthony
Kikaha
Lewis
Swann
Breaux
Bush
Byrd
Ellerbe
Hawthorne

And I'd even say to a lesser extent...
KWilliams
Richardson
Davison
Edebali
Vaccaro

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

JPPT1974 11-19-2015 02:42 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
Well wonder where Rob Ryan will show up next?

dizzle88 11-19-2015 03:38 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 682080)
I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Strange to think that Vaccaro has been around the ball more than a 56 million dollar "Ball Hawk"

FinSaint 11-19-2015 06:42 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 681819)
And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.


I thought Foster was released in the off-season.

CharityMike 11-19-2015 09:58 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 681809)
Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?

Its simple really, if Browner is in zone, he is screwed. The guy is slow. His "supposed" strength was his ability to jam a receiver at the line and throw them off there route. I haven't seen much of this but is it his fault or RR for the way he was being told to play?

darksoul35 11-19-2015 12:29 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
I wish the best for the dude. after his first year I really thought it was a perfect fit. I was wrong. I still feel horrible wishing for someone to lose their job.

K Major 11-19-2015 01:23 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 682080)
I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position :smokin:.

dizzle88 11-19-2015 06:06 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 682133)
Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position :smokin:.

If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

Danno 11-19-2015 06:33 PM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 682151)
If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

jeanpierre 11-20-2015 03:54 AM

Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 682156)
I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

No, but investing as we did when even Bills fans were laughing at us seems pretty evident now...

And we've had way too many gaffes vs successes in free agency these past few seasons...


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