Dennis Allen
 

National Football League - Dennis Allen NFL Career

With the Atlanta Falcons, Allen was a defensive quality control coach from 2002 to 2003 then defensive assistant from 2004 to 2005.[6] Allen then moved to the New Orleans Saints, as defensive line coach from 2006 to 2007 before being secondary coach from 2008 to 2010. The Saints won Super Bowl XLIV in 2009, in which the Saints ranked 3rd in interceptions despite giving up 321 yards per game.[7] After his success with the Saint's secondary, he was hired to be the Denver Broncos Defensive Coordinator. The Broncos defense were in the bottom half of yards allowed, ranked 23rd, but were 5th in the league in sacks in 2011

As coach:

Texas A&M (GA) (1996–1999)
Tulsa (secondary) (2000–2001)
Atlanta Falcons (defensive QC) (2002–2003)
Atlanta Falcons (defensive asst.) (2004–2005)
New Orleans Saints (asst. DL) (2006–2007)
New Orleans Saints (secondary) (2008–2010)
Denver Broncos (DC) (2011)
Oakland Raiders (2012–2014)
New Orleans Saints (Defensive Coordinator) (2015–present)

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The problem is we don't have the right players to run 4-3 and Allen is a 4-3 coach.... I'm not sure whats going to be done about that.

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I agree but at this point in time we don't have much to lose.

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I'm sure he's smart enough to know what he can or can't do with the players he has. I'm hoping we will see improvement throughout the remainder of the season.

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Time to move forward no looking back now.

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We can employ the Two Gap, Three Under, Tampa 2, Zone Man to Man Press!

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We kinda have LBers for a 3-4, yet we kinda have D-lineman for a 4-3.

And...go. It's your show, Mr. Allen.

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We've all herad of next man up. Next Defensive Coordinator up. Here we go.

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ok how can it get any worse?

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My thoughts exactly!

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It can. Total meltdown.

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I know you've watched this team for as long or longer than me, and my memory goes back for about 3.5 decades.

It can always get worse...and my memory is getting worse the older I get, too.

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Saints Defense Goes From This....

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To This....

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The Meltdown already took place at FedEx Field.

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The first Dennis Allen thread?

How were his defenses in Atlanta, Denver?

Not so hot, it appears.
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Be interesting to see if he has the respect of the players or will they not buy in to what he's gonna try to accomplish

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We have plenty of 4-3 guys. We have more 4-3 talent than 3-4.

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People need to realize, it can't possibly get any worse. Not unless they physically add more teams to the league..... Right now there is no further down to go, than #32.

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At this point, what difference does it make who is piloting the titanic? If Allen is the long term fix looking toward next year, great, but if not, what's the point.

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Absolutely correct. We actually have quite few pieces suitable for a 3-4. We are missing a true two-gap NT, 3-4 Ends and I think Kikaha for one is more suited to play in a 4-3.

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Kikaha; Anthony; Dunbar; Humber; Mauti are all better suited to be in a 4-3 defense...

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Dennis Allen is a good coach. People let his failure as a head coach cloud his achievements. Not all coachs are meant to be head coachs.

Just a few stats from his coaching time here:

As a DL assistant we had a total of 70 sacks - 33 forced fumbles
As the DB coach 174 pass deflections - 41 int - 5 defensive td

IMO DA will be fine. Its easy to get your opinion clouded by his stint in Oakland. Which isn't really fair. How many coach's failed in Oakland when Al Davis was in his end years? Denver's D was SOLID when he was the DC which is why Oakland wanted him.

Now with all that said, temper expectations for the rest of this year. He is working with a hodge podge of players. I'm hopeful he does a decent job this year so we can then weed out some bad apples and get another good draft. We have some very good players and are a few pieces from being pretty good. We just need the right DC to lead the pack.

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When we brought Rob in we had more pieces for a 4-3. Now he's on his way out and we have pieces for a 3-4. We are in shambles on that side of the ball. Even veterans are unmotivated and pissed off at this disaster that has been built. Pick out the handful of most mature and prideful guys and start over with the reset.

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Nothing is gonna change. Rr firing was more about sending a message and showing they are willing to do SOMETHING. I'd Allen or even Payton could have done a better job they would have done it wayyy before this.

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I like changing it now because obviously its not working and going forward you know you aren't going to keep going to keep this status quo.

Change it now let someone else start changing it up... Allen isn't here to fix it over night. He is here to start implementing the plan for next year and years to come lets hope.

I kept waiting for this new hybrid of a D they were going to implement and looks like there were doing so with the Safeties they brought in. Sort of like the 'box coverage' that Seattle deploys. Which is what I think is the way to go with our team and get some rushers but same product year in and year out.

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oh yeah I have said it too...trust me I have seen worse

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They were supposedly building a hybrid to what Seattle does and nothing.

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god only knows what we have at the second level to be honest. Thinking about he is the only one that knows at the first either. Is there a third? if so i would say ask god one more time.

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FIFY

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This was a no brainer. Give DA a chance to see what he can do with the reins. He can implement his schemes in the next two weeks and tweak them over the next six games. Allen is familiar with the personnel he has to work with and has the opportunity to prove he should have the job. Who knows? He might take some of the pressure off of Vitt if he's successful.

Allen is a secondary coach and if I recall correctly Payton likes to hire those guys as defensive coordinators.

The real question is do we really want to move to a 3-4? Because I think Allen is a 4-3 coach primarily. Vitt is a 4-3 coach too. If they make it through the offseason cuts I guess we'll be running a 4-3.

Here's the head scratcher for me.......what defense will we run and what defense will we draft for next year? I would love to see a break down of the players talent and what system they are projected to play in.

Edit: The Saints love to put a square peg in a round hole.