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WillSaints81 11-26-2015 06:28 PM

We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
Arizona last game of season. I don't think Arizona loses again remaining unless they have everything locked up. If Carolina is undefeated going into week 17, they will have no need to play to win. They will rest their starters. And make no mistake, if Carolina loses one more game before that week Goodell will see to it their game against TB is flexed to the late afternoon.

So what needs to happen is this. Minnesota has to lose to Atlanta, Seattle, Arizona, and Green Bay. Three of them are highly possible. Seattle is actually a toss-up. So that would mean we need to beat Carolina, and Atlanta or NYG have to beat them also. Can that happen? And if Atlanta beats them they better lose to TB or that also screws us going into the last game.

Week 13 the 1:00 games should feature Seattle@Minnesota, so that outcome will be determined before we play Carolina. I hope we beat them, we have to. But it's going to be hard so Seattle winning in Minnesota is our only hope. Or maybe Chicago or the giants can pull out an upset against them.

spkb25 11-26-2015 07:33 PM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
it is impossible for us to get in at 9-7, we'd have to win 9 games

QBREES9 11-26-2015 10:56 PM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
there's always a catch.

WillSaints81 11-26-2015 11:18 PM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
Yeah and forget hoping for the bears to win in Minnesota. 9-7 just went out the door.

WhoDat!656 11-27-2015 12:14 AM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 682795)
Yeah and forget hoping for the bears to win in Minnesota. 9-7 just went out the door.

Da Bears beat Green Bay in Green Bay so it is a possibility

jnormand 11-27-2015 12:32 AM

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Wait...what?

saintfan 11-27-2015 12:44 AM

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:lolup:

What he said

pherein 11-27-2015 01:16 AM

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Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.

RailBoss 11-27-2015 02:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682804)
Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.

Agreed knock out the Panthers perfect season and beat Atlanta again.

SloMotion 11-27-2015 05:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682804)
Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.

It's kinda' like 'Tim Tebow Syndrome' ... the stats aren't really there but the m'fer is winning games on Sunday, #shrug, #chuckle, #smh.

WhoDat!656 11-27-2015 06:04 AM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 682811)
It's kinda' like 'Tim Tebow Syndrome' ... the stats aren't really there but the m'fer is winning games on Sunday, #shrug, #chuckle, #smh.

Except Tebow isn't near the douche nozzle scam newton is!

Euphoria 11-27-2015 07:25 AM

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bored over the holiday are we?
lol.

halloween 65 11-27-2015 08:03 AM

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I can't see a 9 win season this season from us. Possibly 1 or 2 more.

foreverfan 11-27-2015 08:04 AM

Re: We could actually get in on 9-7, but there's a catch.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682804)
Ive always thought when you start hoping for other teams to lose to make the playoffs then you suck, and are one and done if you make it, lol.

I just want to kick the ever loving sh#t out of the kitty posers with their #15 ranked offence and #17 ranked infantile qb scam newton, then cook the dirty birds again and Ill be happy.



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vpheughan 11-27-2015 08:08 AM

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The same wonderful feeling a 6 -5 almost bad college team gets for "earning" a bowl bid!

Also the Saints have to WIN and as someone on this site says "Atlanta has the most delusional fans!" Keep moving people, nothing delusional going on here!!

This is all based on the solid science of "WHAT IF" otherwise known as "CryptoFootballology"

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Rugby Saint II 11-27-2015 12:14 PM

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I feel like I'm drowning and I am about to take my last breath. There's still hope.........:wink:

pherein 11-27-2015 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 682811)
It's kinda' like 'Tim Tebow Syndrome' ... the stats aren't really there but the m'fer is winning games on Sunday, #shrug, #chuckle, #smh.

ITs the defense. Panthers are #1 in take aways with 31. Thats crazy. If you watched the dallas game thier weak offence and scam couldnt even score in the the 1st half (um on the cowgirls D) while the defense already had 14 pts for 20 pts at the half. Without that defense kitties would be 4-6 team at best becuase the offense is just not that good at all.
After a while they just wear opposing defences out because they are on the field so much.

halloween 65 11-27-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682847)
ITs the defense. Panthers are #1 in take aways with 31. Thats crazy. If you watched the dallas game thier weak offence and scam couldnt even score in the the 1st half (um on the cowgirls D) while the defense already had 14 pts for 20 pts at the half. Without that defense kitties would be 4-6 team at best becuase the offense is just not that good at all.
After a while they just wear opposing defences out because they are on the field so much.

The Panthers lb.'ers cross in passing downs, over the top of the lb.'s and between the S is a glaring hole, hitting that spot a few good times will open up all kinds of pass plays deep with the S having to play closer. Carolina makes teams beat them with the long ball. So far no one has!!

SloMotion 11-27-2015 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682847)
... After a while they just wear opposing defences out because they are on the field so much.

Can I at least give Scam credit for making those first downs that keeps the defenses on the field? :lol: ... j/k.

RailBoss 11-27-2015 06:15 PM

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Actually wanted the Panthers to win over Dallas. First off have big trouble
supporting Jerry's team at any time maybe the exception is Atlanta.
Second the Panthers next game is against us at the Dome, if we can
knock them off their perfect run then our season won't be a total bust.
But it would sure be nice to take out the Texans in the meantime.

hitta 11-27-2015 06:17 PM

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Nothing really would surprise me with this team, we could go 4-12, 10-6, or anything in-between ......

AlaskaSaints 11-27-2015 06:35 PM

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I'd like to see us get there through the Front Door one day.

bobdog86 11-27-2015 09:31 PM

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i could also be dealt a Royal Flush in my next poker game, but probably not gonna happen. Sorry, but just don't think it's in the cards…...

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-27-2015 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 682858)
I'd like to see us get there through the Front Door one day.

I know it seems like ancient history, but the Saints did exactly that in their SB winning year. Started 13-0. Got the #1 seed. Won it all.

So adding the word 'again' is probably appropriate.

But honestly it cannot happen again until 2 things occurs:

1. The defense improves in a few categories:

A. Consistent 3rd down.
B. Takeaways.
C. Pressure on the QB.
D. Play tough in the red zone. No TDs should be the mantra.

2. On the offensive side, more balance and consistency. Run the ball. Dink and dunk. Control time of possession. Take shots when they are there and dump the ball off when it's not. Work every week to break the Saints NFL record of 40 first downs in a regular season game. Make it an offensive goal to have a 100% third down conversion rate by any means.

The year the Saints stormed through the front door the rushing offense was #6 in the league and the defense had 37 takeaways.

But nothing like this will happen with the current discombobulated defense and absolutely non complementary offense.

SFIAH

WillSaints81 11-28-2015 12:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 682801)
Da Bears beat Green Bay in Green Bay so it is a possibility


That's what I meant, here are the common game tie-breakers as I see them.

Should saints lose to Carolina here's how they match up vs said contenders.

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would have to lose this for 9-7)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

We have edge.

Seattle
Carolina-both lose
Dallas-1-1
Det-2-2
Arizona-both lose

tie-breaker goes to SOV.

Chicago(they have to lose to Minnesota for this or TB)
If they beat TB
TB-1-1
Arizona-both lose
Washington-Chi 2, NO 1
Detroit-Chi 3, NO 2

bears have the edge

If they beat Min
TB-NO 1, Chi 0
Arizona-both lose
Washington-1-1
Detroit-2-2

tie-breaker goes to SOV which given Romo's injury and KC's turnaround, Chicago may have passed us there.

If saints were to win out

Minnesota
Atlanta-NO 2, Min 0(they would still have to lose this one or Sea)
Arizona-both lose
NYG-NO 3, Min 1
Det-NO 4, Min 3

If Minnesota beats Atlanta this is tied up and tie-breaker goes to SOV which we should narrowly edge them out. I see 66 wins beaten for us and for Minnesota 64.


Seattle
Carolina-NO 1, Sea 0
Dallas-NO 2, Sea 1
Det-NO 3, Sea 2
Arizona-both lose or 3-3(meaning Sea wins here and lose to Min)

Chicago(has to win out)
Chicago still 3-2.

All three of us likely go 3-1 against AFC however if we lose this week but win the remaining games well we have the better CR giving us the tie-breaker. I don't see Seattle losing in Baltimore with what's going on with them.



And realistically I see it like this remaining
Minnesota
@Atlanta-W
Seattle-L
@Arizona-L
Chicago-W
NYG-W
@GB-L
They will lose to Atlanta or Minnesota because luck will keep them from taking the division. If they lose both its good for us. I don't think they lose to Chicago because the NFC North rotation trend for the other three teams has gone 4,3,2,4,3 etc. It will give us the common tie-breaker over them if we win the 5 games we need to.

Seattle
Pittsburgh-W
@Minnesota-W
@Baltimore-W
Cleveland-W
St.Louis-W
@Arizona-W

11-5.

Chicago
SF-W
Was-W
@Min-L
@TB-L(because by this point season's done)
Det-W

8-8

Atlanta
Min-L
@TB-L
@Car-L
@Jac-W
Car-W
NO-L

8-8.

So I might have been 1 off with them.

Winning out gets us in, 9-7 with Minnesota at 9-7 and beating Chicago gets us in.

We cannot get in at 9-7 if Chicago goes 9-7 and Minnesota does not.

WillSaints81 11-28-2015 12:27 AM

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I don't get the negativity. Everyone got what they wanted with the firing.

I hope like hell we do not get swept by Winston and I see people believe we will lose that game. If we do it will be because Winston will not slow down at any point and allow us to have a chance to come back.

pherein 11-28-2015 12:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 682866)
I don't get the negativity. Everyone got what they wanted with the firing.

I hope like hell we do not get swept by Winston and I see people believe we will lose that game. If we do it will be because Winston will not slow down at any point and allow us to have a chance to come back.

Well not true, people wanted the firing before the season, and everything is not black and white. People have a right to reality. Its what makes you keep your job every day. If your company was going the way of the Saints what would you think?

Ive known people here for years and saying the Saints suck or are not a good team is not negative, its reality. Everyone loves them. We dont burn our jersys like aintlanta , and they believe, and will next year. We have faith. I still have faith they will win the SB, but Im not crazy.
But the truth is we are not that good, and the defence is god awful, and you dont fix that in 2 weeks. I think people are just being truethful.

SmashMouth 11-28-2015 08:09 AM

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:popcorn:

WillSaints81 11-28-2015 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 682869)
Well not true, people wanted the firing before the season, and everything is not black and white. People have a right to reality. Its what makes you keep your job every day. If your company was going the way of the Saints what would you think?

Ive known people here for years and saying the Saints suck or are not a good team is not negative, its reality. Everyone loves them. We dont burn our jersys like aintlanta , and they believe, and will next year. We have faith. I still have faith they will win the SB, but Im not crazy.
But the truth is we are not that good, and the defence is god awful, and you dont fix that in 2 weeks. I think people are just being truethful.

Tell that to Dan Campbell.

WillSaints81 12-04-2015 11:56 PM

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After the saints lost to the texans, 9-7 puts us in a great spot after all as our conference record will be better than Minnesota, Chicago, and our SOV is going to be better than Seattle. The only tie-breaker we lose is in the division to TB. That is if we win out. Which based on our play is unlikely.


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