How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

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How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

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[Edited on 21/2/2005 by GumboBC]

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

This is simply another prelude to the all consuming Brooks Thread...We all know it by now....

He is DYING for someone to Compare Delhomme to Brooks....

Kinda like his \'\'Debate Challenge \'\' thread...It\'s all a setup...

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

I could care less about comparing Delhomme to Brooks.

Know why I posted this?

Because there are a bunch of fans of EVERY team who place too much blame on the QB.

Just look at all the Panther fans pinning the loss on Delhomme. Very short-sighted IMO.

I\'ll say the samething for Delhomme that I say about Brooks. Delhomme made some mistakes, but he certainly got little help from the offensive line. And the defense didn\'t help much either.

I think the Panther\'s offensive line is better than ours, but they had better do something about it or Jake is going to have some real problems.

I\'ll never understand why fans place so much blame on the QB. Not just Saints fans, either...

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

Gator --

When I read what the Panthers\' fans had to say about Delhomme, it sounded just like some of the crap I read here.

My TOTAL reason for posting this is to show how absurd fans can be when they try and pin everything on the QB.

If I were a Panthers\' fan, I\'d be right in their sticking up for Jake and telling those fans how simple-minded they were.

I\'d get labled as a sunshiner and a Delhomme lover.

I\'d get told that I must be the crazy one because I refused to think we need to get another QB.



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It must be nice to be a Panther fan and have a memory of your team going to the Superbowl. It also must be satisfying to know that you did it with a QB that came from another team in your own division that didn\'t have enough guts to play him for fear of upsetting a \"self-proclaimed\" star on their team...and having the knowledge that as long as they keep playing this guy that you will always have a chance to win when you play them. Some fans have all the luck.

BTW, I didn\'t see in any one of those posts where someone was calling for Jake to be replaced. Maybe if the Panthers finish out of the playoffs for the next three years you might be able to find comments like that, but I doubt seriously that they have reached the frustration level with him that we have reached here with AB.





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How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

Gator --

Sometimes a person needs to be shown a different perspective, IMHO.

I just wanted some Saints\' fans to read how some fans place too much blame on the QB.

We watch our QB play every game and some fans pick apart every aspect of his game. Other fans do the samething with their QB.

Panthers\' fans are already questioning Jake\'s accuracy. In two years he hasn\'t completed 60% of his passes. I say, so what!!

Panther fans are suggesting that Delhomme can\'t find open receivers and holds the ball too long and takes needless sacks. I say the offensive line is hurting Jake.

Some Panthers\' fans are already suggest that another QB be brought in to push or replace Jake. I say that\'s foolish.

Jake benifited from playing behind a great offensive line and he also had a great defense when they went to the super bowl. Jake played well in the playoffs. I\'ll give him proper respcet for that.

If the Panthers don\'t address thier offensive line, I think Jake is going to continue to sturggle and the fans are going to grow more restless.

While Jake makes his fair share of mistakes, the QB position is NOT the problem.

I hope this drives a point home to some folks. Probably not though?

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

Understood. But it does go to show that QBs, in general, take too much blame. And I think it shows that when fans watch their QB EVERY week, they tend to focus on the negatives way too much.

I\'m under no grand illusion that Jake and Brooks are in the same situation. And that\'s not the point I\'m trying to make.

Both Brooks and Delhomme had ONE thing in common this year and that would be they both played behind subpar offensive lines. Although, I still say the Panthers\' offensive line was better than ours. But, the Panther offensive line still isn\'t good. Their coach, John Fox, is also able to call better pass blocking schemes than we are, IMO.

Anyway, this might not mean too much too some folks. I just thought I\'d give something new a try.

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

..and that\'s how that Panthers Pride thread ended....

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How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

QB\'s are expected to receive the most blame they get an undue amount of credit when the team wins -- they usually are the highest priced players on the team -- usually are relied on to be the leaders of the team -- and handle the ball more than any other player on the team. I mean they handle the ball on all of the offensive plays (except for the very few trick plays). Based on this why shouldn\'t they be up for the most scrutiny. Yes a team wins or loses together but the QB can put teams on his back and win the game single handed or make bone head plays and lose the game single handed. One problem we have with Brooks is that he may be too sensitive to accept this criticsm which could be a problem

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

Gumbo, I just can\'t buy into you\'re thought of the QB getting too much of the blame. If this was the guy\'s first year in the system, then I could see sticking up for the guy. That\'s not the case here. Now, I understand what you\'re trying to do here, and I can respect that, but you\'re waaaaaaaaaaay off the mark here.

First, I\'d like to see someone start a thread with Panther\'s fans and see if anyone would be interested in swapping Jake for AB. Man, there would be so much poo thrown at you for that, your grandkids would be getting hate email.

Second, you\'re not going to see Panther\'s fans trying to get rid of Jake because he\'s performed for them on the large stage. It\'s not like it was fans were calling for Jake\'s head. They were just stating that he had a crap game. He\'s made many a comeback for them and this was only his second year starting. He led them to a Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, if they could have completed the comeback it\'s a sure thing that he would have been named MVP. He\'s actually accomplished something worth noting. Not something worth noting because the franchise has historically sucked, but something worth noting because there were 30 other teams last year wishing their QB had done what Carolina\'s QB had.

Now, I know you can\'t realistically do it, but I\'d be willing to bet you couldn\'t find 10 teams in the league that would swap their starting QB for ours. AB has all the talent in the world, but what he needs can\'t be taught. He needs grit and determination. Until he develops that refusal to lose, he will be a continual disappointment. I\'m not saying let\'s just dump the guy, but this team has got to start giving the guy a reason to stay sharp. We need someone competent behind this guy, because I just can\'t keep doing the just miss the playoffs thing every year. IT\'S GONNA DRIVE ME TO PROZAC MAN!!!!!

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

kevinn1972-

Jakes only been in Carolina 2 years. So... no, there aren\'t a bunch of fans calling for Jake\'s head YET!!

But, there are already some fans who have suggested that:

Then there are some folks questioing Jakes progress:

There\'s not much I can add to what I\'ve already said. I\'m not here to knock Delhomme. I don\'t like the guy, by any stretch of the imagination, but I know when a QB receivestoo much blame.

Give the Panthers one more year without going to the playoffs and I\'ll betcha there will be a bunch of Panthers\' fans wanting to get another QB.

It really doens\'t matter if the QB is the reason for a team not being successful, there\'s always going to be a bunch of fans who want to replace the QB. Some of \'em just want to replace him to see if that is indeed the problem. Some will want to replace him just because the QB position is the spot that makes the most differece.





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How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

Absolutely. So tell me, how do you feel about those Miami fans calling AB a bum and fretting the idea of AB in Miami? Just wondering - does that make you think AB criticism is more justified? Or do you think that all QB criticism is unjustified?

How did Panther fans react after losing to Saints? (funny)
 

I wonder how many games Miami fans have watched Brooks\' play? I\'m guessing not many!

ESPN highlighted a couple of blunders AB made and fans around the country got to see \'em. And I\'m sure AB perception was influenced by that.

How do you feel about what the PANTHERS FANS said about Delhomme?

You told me that the \"evidence\" here at B&G showed that I was wrong and you guys were right.

Anyway, I don\'t want to get into a pissing contest here..lol.. ;)

There\'s really not much more I can say that I haven\'t said. This thing might get outta control. I\'m not knocking Delhomme. Strangely enough, I\'m defending him.