Is age really the reason?
 

Drew Brees 36 years old
Carson Palmer 35 years old

Marques Colston 32 years old
Larry Fitzgerald 32 years old

There is something wrong with this offense -- but this year -- age is not the problem. I'm not even going to mention the D. Let's just keep the focus on the side of the ball that was truly surprising, in a bad way, this season.

I think Bruce Arians is a good coach.

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Theres more going on than we probablh know. Not only that but our positional coaches are pretty bad at developing players. If we drafted Aaron Donald, Luke Kuechly, etc they probably wouldnt be nearly as good on this team for whatever reason.

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A QB age is a reflection of their line

As for the rest we will see what happens in year two of the draft and a new DC banging the desk for the players they want

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An interesting season in that aspect, lotta' journeyman players doing well, ie add Matt Hasselback (IND) to that list. I got Carson Palmer on my FF team (by accident), woohoo!! :party:

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Every person is different. Carson Palmer played good early in his career and not so good in the middle. He has had a resurgence since being with the Cardinals. Probably a mix of coaching (scheme) and he is just playing good ball right now. We have seen it many times, a player does crap with a team and then changes teams and is a superstar.

Coaching makes all the difference. Look at how many vets they have on both sides of the ball playing very good football. It just highlights even more how much our coaching has gone stale. WE use to be THE team. No one wanted to play us at the dome. Our offense struck fear in EVERYONE and what superstars did we have? Brees...a good O line. Colston was underated but he is/was never a Larry Fitzgerald. Our Defense was never great but did enough.

Just reflect on how good we were and think if we had a D like the Cardinals to go with our Offense in Drews prime, how many Lombardi's would we have right now? But constant misses in the draft and free agency never gave our defense a chance. And now so many bad decisions, along with a coaching staff that don't have the same spark, this is where we have fallen to. Payton got his nads and in turn, his edge, stomped on by RG. I don't know if he can get it back and I personally don't think we will see it here. His reluctance and his loyalty to our present staff is his downfall here. We need a jolt of life from some new staff. The message is not getting through anymore because IMO, Payton has got complacent. He does not demand the same respect he once did. Remember how the players would talk about that stare, or how when they screwed up, they would go out of there way to avoid him on the sideline. Those days are gone as evidenced by Browner bucking up to DA. What coach would let fly and not have repercussions? Would Belchick stand for that? I would say neither would many other coach's.

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A lot of misses for sure. Have to have those to keep momentum. Once that is gone, difficult to get it going again. I think that is where we are right now, really low level of production from all angles of acquiring players for a while. Get new eyes evaluating players and get new position coaches. What we have now is broken.

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I don't think age is as much a problem as the offensive line. Most of Paytons passing plays are deeper routes, which Drew doesn't have the time to let them develop. That's when the non-stop screens come into play to try and neutralize the pressure

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Age might not affect the QB play as much but it's killing us on the O-line. Strief and Evans are ancient......and Colston isn't a spring chicken anymore.

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It's affecting me almost every play. Just makes me feel older and older...

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I don't understand the conversation here. How much is really wrong with our offense. We are
4th- Yds/game
4th- 3rd down %
9th- Points/game

I'm not saying the offense doesn't have problems but it could be a lot worse.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with Brees. Our offensive line hurts his performance and the fact that we dont have the targets we use to have does too. Our receivers were never great players but Brees made them look that way. The difference between then and now is that back in the SB days we had receivers who complimented each other very well. We had a receiver for every job who did that job very well. A field stretcher in Henderson, big Colston in his prime, Lance who was a good route runner and possetion guy. Payton played all those guys to their strenghts. We dont have that now.
If we get one very good/ elite receiver Drew can still play at a high level for two more years. He was accurate enough back in the day to mask the deficiancies of some of our receivers. As he ages he is going to lose a little accuracy but an elite receiver can compensate for that.

Extend him, draft a receiver in the first this year (for the love of god not a utility guy but a legit wide receiver), and depending on Grayson draft a future QB in the first of 2017 draft.

After receiver go guard and Oline then pass rusher and help up front. I think we finally have LB sewed up and our secondary believe it or not is a very talented bunch minus Browner.

There simply isnt a better option at QB in the immediete future.

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This is not the same offense we have seen in years past. And, numbers don't tell the story. First off, we are used to being first or second in those categories. Our receivers have sucked.

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And today showed. Three years ago that would be 38-17.

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Huh?

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Talking about the offense's issues.

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The Saints won TODAY! As the first rule of Italian driving states "What's behind me is not important!"

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Let move on to next weeks game.

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We used to have one of the best offenses the NFL has ever had to offer. If you guys think thats how it should be all the time you are crazy. Most teams would kill for the offense we have right now. Yea they have their problems but there are probably 10 teams out there with more offensive talent who are fielding way worse offenses than we are.
You cant be number 1 every year. Top 10 with a middle of the pack but opportunistic defense, good coaching, and discipline can put you in the playoffs most every year.

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I don't think that style will get us to the sb^