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spkb25 12-21-2015 10:53 PM

Sean
 
is he here next year or not?

dizzle88 12-21-2015 10:56 PM

Re: Sean
 
I hope not.

bobdog86 12-21-2015 10:57 PM

Re: Sean
 
Yes, in my opinion. I hope so. We could have worse and our management's business model would suggest we probably would get worse…….We could have a coach who throws one pass to possibly one a the best WR's in a generation that was covered man to man by Brandon Browner from start to finish. my two cents

foreverfan 12-21-2015 11:09 PM

Re: Sean
 
Payton gone... Brees gone... Benson gone... Loomis gone...

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SmashMouth 12-21-2015 11:12 PM

Re: Sean
 
Yes he is.... cuz Nick Saban won't take the job.

foreverfan 12-21-2015 11:42 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 686494)
Yes he is.... cuz Nick Saban won't take the job.



Saban in New Orleans..... You never know.



The Dude 12-22-2015 12:21 AM

Re: Sean
 
Good lord how many of these threads are started every week? He is one of the best coaches in the league and will go on to win more Super Bowls but I think he is done here. I dont think he has the passion or drive here in new orleans anymore. He is just going through the motions. I thrink he leaves on his terms. I have a feeling he will ask to be traded

spkb25 12-22-2015 04:32 AM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 686503)
Good lord how many of these threads are started every week? He is one of the best coaches in the league and will go on to win more Super Bowls but I think he is done here. I dont think he has the passion or drive here in new orleans anymore. He is just going through the motions. I thrink he leaves on his terms. I have a feeling he will ask to be traded

well, I like to start every one every few weeks just to gauge where the board is at. Everything I hear Sean say sounds like a coach who has no more answers and who knows he is on his way out. I could be wrong, clearly, but it is starting to sound like that

UK_WhoDat 12-22-2015 05:08 AM

Re: Sean
 
A wise Chinaman once said
When you reach end of book
Close it

SloMotion 12-22-2015 06:51 AM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 686514)
A wise Chinaman once said
When you reach end of book
Close it

There is a lot of wisdom to be gleaned from the made-for-TV Kung Fu series and fortune cookies, just sayin', :).


MatthewT 12-22-2015 06:56 AM

Re: Sean
 
I think Sean will be back, along with most of the current coaching staff. I do believe at this point the guy is probably burned out and really needs this season to end.

K Major 12-22-2015 07:12 AM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 686530)
I think Sean will be back, along with most of the current coaching staff.

If this is the case, we will continue to have problems. We can't blame Rob Ryan anymore & I'm not sure Allen is the answer either. A complete coaching clean out/overhaul on the defensive side of the ball is required. Saints defense so desperately need a play maker.

How can we not display a consistent, AVERAGE defense in Sean Payton's era here is baffling for me.

Seer1 12-22-2015 09:21 AM

Re: Sean
 
Buh-bye...


Please?

Euphoria 12-22-2015 09:31 AM

Re: Sean
 
I can't see any situation that Sean will not be here next year.

Look the one single guy that brought us a SB and we are going to can him???

K Major 12-22-2015 09:38 AM

Re: Sean
 
Here me out on this Who Dats ...

I'm by no means predicting SP's departure but it wouldn't surprise me. There was a time where I thought he was the best coach in all of the NFL... maybe with the exception of Bill Bellicheck. Over the last 2, 3 years we have seen coaches like Carroll, McCarthy, Rivera & Harbaugh move into this conversation.

If and when he does eventually move on, I hope there is a solid replacement as good as the aforementioned. Those teams prior to Payton's arrival in NO were pretty damn bad.

dizzle88 12-22-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Sean
 
I think he's gone, atleast I hope he is.

Done riding the success of 2009, wake up, it was 6 years ago and he's done nothing since 2011.

lumm0x 12-22-2015 09:57 AM

Re: Sean
 
Are you guys kidding? Do you even remember life before we had Payton and Brees? We were not even a competitive team for 90% of this history of this team prior to them. Be scared of the day we don't have them any more and we are back to life like the Browns.

As much as I appreciate we are on the decline I am not eager to fall off the cliff.

hagan714 12-22-2015 02:40 PM

Re: Sean
 
ok what did SP do wrong? offense puts up the points and is always rated high yet because the defense can not stop a blind three legged monkey we are booting him?

Rob is gone. huge start

2017 baby. 2017

dizzle88 12-22-2015 02:48 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 686637)
ok what did SP do wrong? offense puts up the points and is always rated high yet because the defense can not stop a blind three legged monkey we are booting him?

Rob is gone. huge start

2017 baby. 2017

Firstly, SP is the head coach, not just the offensive coordinator, so its his job to get the players ready to play.

Too many times our offense only comes alive in garbage time.

The offense did nothing to aid the D, when the Defense was tired the O just put them straight back out there.

Mardigras9 12-22-2015 03:00 PM

Re: Sean
 
Loumis here - Payton gone
Loumis gone - Payton stays
Brees and Benson here no matter

Rugby Saint II 12-22-2015 05:27 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 686530)
I think Sean will be back, along with most of the current coaching staff. I do believe at this point the guy is probably burned out and really needs this season to end.

I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go!

I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton.

So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans!

Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats! :cheers:

WillSaints81 12-22-2015 05:49 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 686637)
ok what did SP do wrong? offense puts up the points and is always rated high yet because the defense can not stop a blind three legged monkey we are booting him?

Rob is gone. huge start

2017 baby. 2017


Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half?

We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally.

hagan714 12-22-2015 08:59 PM

Re: Sean
 
sorry I can not hang the offensive issues on SP. Two years straight everyone got what they wanted and the saints went defense in the draft and free agency. SP did not apply the defensive philosophy to players the saints added over that time. That was Robs brain child.

Unlike the many games we have seen from the saints under Rob the saints no longer give up.

SP biggest mistake was letting ROB go after the players that Rob said would make his defense work. Failed plan and simple.

No I can not hang a coach that has the ability to take an offense year in and year out that ranks at or near elite levels. I just can not do it.

Yell about the people he has put faith into? sure been doing that since before the ink dried on Robs contract.

As an offensive coach that excels in half time adjustments? nope

lets see if DA gets the job as DC. So far DA has made adjustments on the fly with a very thin selection of players and for the most part is doing a better job coaching than Rob.

i am 100% behind the man. still.

RaginCajun83 12-22-2015 09:05 PM

Re: Sean
 
So who's going to replace him? No way Saban leaves Alabama, he's gets his pick of 5* recruits every year and only loses a game or two a season while being paid like a Saudi prince.

I could see Payton here next season but if this ship keeps sinking then I doubt he sees 2017 with the Saints. Another thing, he might want to sober up before talking to a national reporter on ESPN. Dude looked and sounded like he had just got off the plane from a three day bender last night and drove to the Superdome

bobdog86 12-22-2015 09:36 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 686652)
I love Sean but his drinking buddies have got to go. WE NEED new pesonnel with a fresh perspective. McMahon, Vitt and the D-line coach have to go!

I'm on Sean Payton's bandwagon until the wheels fall off and we're dragging the wagon leaving deep groves in the road. If the horses die then they can hitch me up to the wagon and I'll pull it by myself. I'm in this for the duration of the ride. It's been one hell of a ride so far and I'm looking forward to the rest off this journey. Not only that I had to learn how to spell his name correctly. It's Sean Payton. Not Shawn Peyton.

So, no way in Hell do I want Sean anywhere besides New Orleans!

Besides, with all the fair weather fans jumping off the wagon I've got more elbow room for drinking with true Who Dats! :cheers:

Cheers to you my good man……to hear someone ***** about riding the coat tails of our super bowl success sure as hell must not remember the 40 years prior to…….complete lunacy!

The Dude 12-22-2015 09:39 PM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 686654)
Offense did nothing first half. Wait are you of the mindset that it's natural because of the offense scoring 6 in the sb first half?

We need oline protection and a receiver who can bail Cooks out when he' facing peterson or Norman. And next year Talib, Sherman, Jenkins, Carr additionally.

Yep, receiver first then one or two on Oline. Put in a pass rusher next to Jordan and we have a team. With Cooks, Snead, and a Laquan Treadwell type draft pick Brees can play 3 more years if he has a half decent Oline in front of him. I imagine we will address TE at some point too. Not much left there after Watson.

NOLA54 12-22-2015 10:12 PM

Re: Sean
 
Sean stays if he gives the playing calling duties to Carmichael & allows Dennis Allen to choose is own coaching staff.

lee909 12-23-2015 01:15 AM

Re: Sean
 
I dont get this give the playcalling to Carmichael. He didn't pull up any trees the year Payton was out. It was the same predictable plays as always.

Oh and before anyone starts with the "we have one of the highest rated offenses" runbish. Thats yards per game. They dont win you games,points do and not regularly going 3 snd out.

Its easy to pile up yards when you start every drive on the 20 because your defense has more holes than a sieve

jnormand 12-23-2015 02:32 AM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 686580)
Are you guys kidding? Do you even remember life before we had Payton and Brees? We were not even a competitive team for 90% of this history of this team prior to them. Be scared of the day we don't have them any more and we are back to life like the Browns.

As much as I appreciate we are on the decline I am not eager to fall off the cliff.

Nice to see I'm not the only one who sees logic here. People complain all the time about wanting to can him. I have memories when a 6-10 season was actually a "good season" for the Saints. I hope he stays and makes everyone eat crow.

spkb25 12-23-2015 04:32 AM

Re: Sean
 
gents, we have 5 wins

K Major 12-23-2015 07:24 AM

Re: Sean
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 686695)
Yep, receiver first then one or two on Oline.

Get a great WR and a crappy O line - end up like the Falcons ;).


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