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WhoDat!656 12-22-2015 06:12 PM
Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Sit him for the season; risking further injury to the MVP on the team would be criminal!

If he doesn't play looks like Santa brought an extra win for Jacksonville and the failclowns!

Saints quarterback Drew Brees became the fourth quarterback in NFL history with 60,000 passing yards on Monday night, but his ability to continue up the ladder in 2015 will be complicated by a foot injury.

After the loss to the Lions, Brees said that he would have an MRI on his right foot due to an injury suffered during the game that left him wearing a protective boot. Ed Werder of ESPN reports that the test showed a torn plantar fascia and that Brees wants to play in the final two games, but is still waiting an evaluation from Charlotte-based foot specialist Dr. Robert Anderson.

If the report is accurate, that would mean two of the four passers with more than 60,000 yards would be in contact with Anderson about similar injuries. Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning is dealing with a partially torn plantar fascia and may need surgery to repair the issue.

Injuries affect different people in different ways, but Manning’s been out for several weeks so there’s some chance that Brees may have played his last down for the Saints this season. With talk about Sean Payton’s future, or lack thereof, in New Orleans a background topic for much of the year and Brees carrying a huge cap number for a team that needs help at many positions this offseason, some will likely wonder if he’ll play any for them next season.

Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot | ProFootballTalk

ChrisXVI 12-22-2015 06:24 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Shut it down Drew. Time to see what we have in Grayson! With that being said, Matt Flynn will probably start.

saintfan 12-22-2015 06:27 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Yeah, have a seat old Man. Let the kid throw it some. We'll see ya back in training camp...

Danno 12-22-2015 06:27 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
You don't want to destroy Grayson's future is he isn't ready. I still think David Carr would have been a good QB if he wasn't thrown into the lions den right away.

spkb25 12-22-2015 06:31 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
well, this is 15th game, put GG in, get him some experience

brees84 12-22-2015 06:39 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 686666)
well, this is 15th game, put GG in, get him some experience
Let the kid take some beating. lol

Crusader 12-22-2015 06:42 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Sit him and let the rookie play. I don't care if we lose the last two games if that gives some time for Grayson to develop.

Danno 12-22-2015 06:44 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Or he holds on to too long and suffers a career ending injury?

Lets roll the dice, injuries to key players be damned!!!

jnormand 12-22-2015 06:48 PM
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If he can and wants to play I have a feeling he will. Something tells me he's going to want to finish the season.

RaginCajun83 12-22-2015 07:53 PM
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I doubt Brees sits out the Jags game, ATL maybe

halloween 65 12-22-2015 08:07 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad.

Beastmode 12-22-2015 08:12 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
It will be Flynn if we go to #2. No way they are putting in a rookie. They signed Flynn for that specific reason. Even Brees sucked as a young buck. So did Peyton. I know, I watched them and it took a little while.

Halo 12-22-2015 08:39 PM
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Get well soon bro. We'll need you rested for next season.

hagan714 12-22-2015 09:03 PM
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i agree he should sit but who here honestly believes Drew will go happy to the bench? he will fight this to the bitter end.

The Dude 12-22-2015 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686673)
Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Or he holds on to too long and suffers a career ending injury?

Lets roll the dice, injuries to key players be damned!!!
I whole heartedly agree. One of the biggest mistakes young QBs try to do is force it to their recievers when they are coming across the middle when he is well covered which almost always results in a receiver getting clocked. Bad idea. I dont know why eveyone is so hell bent on seeing him anyway. I doubt he is the future franchise QB and if he is he has plenty of time to sit and learn. Worked for Rodgers.

jeanpierre 12-22-2015 10:15 PM
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NOLA54 12-22-2015 10:15 PM
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I said a couple of weeks ago that with nothing to really play for but draft picks, to sit Drew to avoid injury and start Grayson.

Now that the injury has occurred, don't even have Drew dress for any of the remaining games.

ScottF 12-22-2015 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 686682)
I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad.
so, 2nd quarter?

Tobias-Reiper 12-22-2015 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 686693)
I dont know why eveyone is so hell bent on seeing him anyway.
Because picked in the 3rd round.

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I doubt he is the future franchise QB and if he is he has plenty of time to sit and learn. Worked for Rodgers.
Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is:
An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.

And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head.

And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD).

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One of the biggest mistakes young QBs try to do is force it to their recievers when they are coming across the middle when he is well covered which almost always results in a receiver getting clocked.
Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything.

College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making.

Tobias-Reiper 12-22-2015 11:15 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686673)
Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt?
Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long.

QBREES9 12-22-2015 11:22 PM
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Learn from the past. Take a seat Drew, and lets see what we have in Grayson, and Matt Flynn.

blackangold 12-23-2015 02:23 AM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
We should play the rookie... It would be stupid not to, but knowing this team we'll end up seeing Brees out there or Flynn showing us why he wasn't on a roster less than a month ago.

The fact that Brees was clearly hurt but still left in the game shows my how dumb the coaching staff on this team is. Payton has lost his touch on reality and needs to go. If not for the ring he'd likely be gone already, but we're talking about something that happened almost 7 years ago now...

leilung 12-23-2015 06:16 AM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
I see everyone talking Flynn and Grayson. What happened to Luke in the rotation?

dizzle88 12-23-2015 07:21 AM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 686732)
I see everyone talking Flynn and Grayson. What happened to Luke in the rotation?
Luke is on IR.

Mardigras9 12-23-2015 07:45 AM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
They will have to bind Drew on the sideline to keep him from playing, he was having an out-of-body the one game he had to sit out.
It is the smart thing to do, not worth risking permanent injury to his 36 year old body. Let Flynn play and sub in Grayson for some experience.

Garry42 12-23-2015 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686662)
You don't want to destroy Grayson's future is he isn't ready. I still think David Carr would have been a good QB if he wasn't thrown into the lions den right away.
I don't disagree, but I also don't see this as "throwing him into the lions den". It's more like a live audition to see what the kid has. Playoffs are out of reach anyway so its not like he's carrying the franchise on his back. I don't believe Grayson is ready to be a starter yet, but I'd love to see what he may be capable of doing in a game situation. Just my thoughts......

halloween 65 12-23-2015 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 686707)
so, 2nd quarter?
Kind of read my mind!! I liked how Grayson looked(even with limited snaps) in pre-season. Our O isn't bad and he's mobile with a cannon of an arm. But the main thing was his poise in the pocket. The kid impresses me with a 3rd string O behind him then.

Danno 12-23-2015 08:27 AM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 686710)
Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long.
Good point. And I'm not against starting Grayson, I'd love to see him perform. I just don't think that its a no-brainer that he should. The coaches probably know if he's ready or not.

But we all know, barring amputation, that Drew Brees will be starting the next 2 games.

Budsdrinker 12-23-2015 09:47 AM
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You all are crazy if you think Drew is going to let someone else start the last 2 games. You can't make the foot injury any worse by playing on it.
It's just how well you can handle the pain. If anything this injury to Drew might make them throw the quick slants that I've been wanting to see since we drafted Cooks. It could also be quite possible this Sunday could be Drew's last home game in a Saints uniform. I bet first beer he plays.

halloween 65 12-23-2015 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 686756)
You all are crazy if you think Drew is going to let someone else start the last 2 games. You can't make the foot injury any worse by playing on it.
It's just how well you can handle the pain. If anything this injury to Drew might make them throw the quick slants that I've been wanting to see since we drafted Cooks. It could also be quite possible this Sunday could be Drew's last home game in a Saints uniform. I bet first beer he plays.
It's his plant foot throwing the ball. I don't see Payton risking more injury. He can't run and the Jags have a good D. Brees could get hurt alot worst. It takes a long time for this to heal, got to look at next season. I agree Brees might want to play but he(or the Saints) shouldn't throw caution into the wind with just 5 wins ,it's not worth it.

vpheughan 12-23-2015 10:09 AM
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Remember what Doug Flutie told Drew in San Diego "Never let your backup see the field"

"Playing for draft choices now" is spelled T A N K I N G.

Thirty3 12-23-2015 12:24 PM
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time for GRAYSON.

Rugby Saint II 12-23-2015 01:00 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686673)
Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Or he holds on to too long and suffers a career ending injury?

Lets roll the dice, injuries to key players be damned!!!
Hmmmmm......I don't see it. Game film baby.
Teaching Moments!

xan 12-23-2015 01:36 PM
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Stay down Rock! Don't get up! Stay down.

darksoul35 12-23-2015 07:18 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 686708)
Because picked in the 3rd round.


Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is:
An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.

And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head.

And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD).


Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything.

College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making.
Not to mention your not allowed to hit receivers coming across the middle any more.

jeanpierre 12-23-2015 08:22 PM
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Some people may feel it's tanking, but playing Grayson now does two possible things...

Gives an evaluation if he is a quality starter for life, soon-to-come, after Brees...

These are expendable games, we are eliminated for this season, what better opportunity for him to gain experience in regular season games?!?

Second, if the worst is losing the remaining games, is moving up in the draft order such a bad thing to get even better players for next season?!?

Play for both the now and the future...

ChrisXVI 12-23-2015 08:28 PM
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Amen jeanpierre.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-23-2015 09:19 PM
Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 686756)
You all are crazy if you think Drew is going to let someone else start the last 2 games. You can't make the foot injury any worse by playing on it.
It's just how well you can handle the pain. If anything this injury to Drew might make them throw the quick slants that I've been wanting to see since we drafted Cooks. It could also be quite possible this Sunday could be Drew's last home game in a Saints uniform. I bet first beer he plays.
Not Brees' call. Payton simply needs to declare him inactive and that's the end of that.

What exactly is the upside to having Brees play injured at this point? If the team was fighting for a playoff spot, that would be one thing. But this season is over. So risking the franchise to stroke his ego would be the height of stupidity.

In fact the team should put Brees on IR and be done with it. Let Grayson get a couple of games of seasoning. Playing live regular season football can do nothing but help develop Grayson going into the offseason.

SFIAH

jeanpierre 12-24-2015 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 686823)
Not Brees' call...So risking the franchise to stroke his ego would be the height of stupidity.
And this team for as brilliant as it's been, has done some equally stupid things...

Loyalty is one thing so long as it doesn't affect the overall long-term health of the team...


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