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voodooido 01-01-2016 01:34 PM

Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home
 
Zach Strief will play for the New Orleans Saints or no one - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN

Sounds to me like he is willing to take a good size pay cut to stay a Saint. Not to often a player shows this type of loyality. Could be a valuable cheap backup.

jnormand 01-01-2016 03:27 PM

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Extremely rare. Keep him around. Might as well see if he can beat out the kids. If not, hey, we can always use a guy like him as a backup.

Good guy. Wish there were more like him in the NFL.

Crusader 01-01-2016 03:47 PM

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Strief is a solid tackle but seems like an even greater guy!

rezburna 01-01-2016 04:50 PM

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I'm fine with him being a back up RT, but please God, don't let him be a starter anymore. I never understood the infatuation with Strief. He's the most overrated player to ever touch our offensive line. We should have moved Bushrod to RT and let Strief walk years ago. Then maybe we wouldn't have wasted a picked on Peat and took an interior lineman or pass rusher instead.

vpheughan 01-01-2016 06:24 PM

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Yeah, we should have wasted it on Chris Conley!

gulfgambler 01-01-2016 07:34 PM

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Has been rated as one of the best RT in the NFL in 2013 and 2014. His character in the locker room has never been questioned. Zach your a pro in every way. Wish we head a 53 man roster on game day with guys like you. If so we wouldn't be talking about missing the playoffs, but how deep we get in the playoffs.

Boutte 01-01-2016 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687750)
I'm fine with him being a back up RT, but please God, don't let him be a starter anymore. I never understood the infatuation with Strief. He's the most overrated player to ever touch our offensive line. We should have moved Bushrod to RT and let Strief walk years ago. Then maybe we wouldn't have wasted a picked on Peat and took an interior lineman or pass rusher instead.

:lolup:

spkb25 01-01-2016 08:14 PM

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he was really good prior to this season, but this season he has been a disaster, Peat has to take over and we should keep him as abackup

RockyMountainSaint 01-01-2016 10:11 PM

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K Major 01-01-2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687750)
I'm fine with him being a back up RT, but please God, don't let him be a starter anymore. I never understood the infatuation with Strief. He's the most overrated player to ever touch our offensive line.

C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime.

I also think Zach was good for many years.

rezburna 01-01-2016 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 687786)
C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime.

I also think Zach was good for many years.

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

halloween 65 01-02-2016 08:01 AM

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He's been a blue collar RT. Nothing flashy but able to do his job. Now the wear and tear has started showing I think he could be a decent backup and hopefully mentors Peat to become the next starting RT. We could have did alot worst than Strief, he's been solid enough for a very good O over the years and hope he does retire with the Saints, he's earned it.

Rugby Saint II 01-02-2016 05:31 PM

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I know it's not popular but he usually grades out well by PFF.

skymike 01-02-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 687748)
Strief is a solid tackle but seems like an even greater guy!

He is a good guy. I met him at training camp in Jackson, MS, after practice, and he had time to sign tons of autographs & take pics w/ my kids. My pic. with him is one of my favorites, and one of the funniest you'll see.

skymike 01-02-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687791)
I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

blackangold 01-02-2016 07:39 PM

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Would like to see him back as a back-up for both OT and OG spots.

He also adds a lot of value as a leader on the team, essentially he is a coach in the locker-room. We saw how valuable that type of player is when we cut Jenkins and Harper. You can't judge a players value by just looking at his contribution on the field. Hell, even Vilma was valuable to us in his last few years, the guy didn't play but you would always see him coaching on the sideline.

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

blackangold 01-02-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687791)
I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT.

Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round.

K Major 01-02-2016 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 687844)

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

blackangold 01-03-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 687853)
Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

I don't doubt that, but some times the football itch can't be scratched unless your back on the field in some capacity. We all love and miss Vilma. I'm sure he won't be coaching for the Saints, it's just a pipe dream for me.

SloMotion 01-03-2016 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 687842)
... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard, :neutral:.

It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks.

Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO.

Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'. :)

rezburna 01-03-2016 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 687842)
and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.

skymike 01-04-2016 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687879)
Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.

He was Nails yesterday.
He'll be back next year.
GEAUX Zach!


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