Saints 2016 Coaching Staff

Danno · 01-31-2016, 04:22 PM

More FYI about 4-3 versus 3-4

4-3 base teams
Seattle Seahawks,
New England Patriots,
Carolina Panthers,
Cincinnati Bengals,
New Orleans Saints,
Minnesota Vikings,
St. Louis Rams,
Dallas Cowboys,
Atlanta Falcons,
Oakland Raiders,
Jacksonville Jaguars,
Detroit Lions,
Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Miami Dolphins,
Philadelphia Eagles
New York Giants.

3-4 base teams
Cleveland Browns,
Buffalo Bills,
San Diego Chargers,
Pittsburgh Steelers,
Indianapolis Colts,
Tennessee Titans,
Denver Broncos,
Houston Texans,
Chicago Bears,
San Francisco 49ers,
Green Bay Packers,
Baltimore Ravens,
Arizona Cardinals,
Kansas City Chiefs,
New York Jets,
Washington Redskins,

Danno · 01-31-2016, 04:40 PM

More FYI

11 of the top 20 defenses ran a 4-3
9 of the top 20- defenses ran a 3-4

6 of the top 10 ran a 4-3
4 of the top 10 ran a 3-4

Half the playoff teams ran a 4-3.

It appears their isn't a superior alignment.

jeanpierre · 01-31-2016, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

More FYI

11 of the top 20 defenses ran a 4-3
9 of the top 20- defenses ran a 3-4

6 of the top 10 ran a 4-3
4 of the top 10 ran a 3-4

Half the playoff teams ran a 4-3.

It appears their isn't a superior alignment.

It's not so much getting bogged down in an argument for the 3-4 or 4-3 front being superior...

It's the frustration of having drafted, acquired more 3-4 personnel than 4-3 and running a 4-3 because that's the only system Dennis Allen seems limited to running...

Danno · 02-04-2016, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's not so much getting bogged down in an argument for the 3-4 or 4-3 front being superior...

It's the frustration of having drafted, acquired more 3-4 personnel than 4-3 and running a 4-3 because that's the only system Dennis Allen seems limited to running...

How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3?

Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both.

He's not "limited".

jeanpierre · 02-06-2016, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3?

Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both.

He's not "limited".

He limits himself...

After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha...

In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays...

Danno · 02-06-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He limits himself...

After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha...

In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays...

He limits himself?

Where do you come up with this stuff?

halloween 65 · 02-01-2016, 12:45 PM

Question I ask is how is our D going to get us back on top. Allen and the boys want cut it in a 4-3 or a 3-4.

jeanpierre · 02-02-2016, 07:48 AM

STAFF CHANGES

Payton detailed several staff additions and subtractions Tuesday. The team has added Dan Campbell (tight ends), Aaron Glenn (secondary), Peter Giunta (senior defensive assistant) and Joe Lombardi (quarterbacks). Dan Roushar (offensive line) coached tight ends last season; Bret Ingalls was not retained...

On Campbell: “Dan, I first got to work with when I was with the Giants and we drafted him out of Texas A&M. Then, later with the Cowboys, we signed him in free agency. I’ve always followed his career, I’ve been just a huge fan. We had a short time frame in ’09 where he was with us before he retired. Just a hard worker, I think a real good teacher. He’ll come in to the tight end position. Dan Roushar will move over into the offensive line position. He’s had a ton of experience coaching the offensive line. That was a real good hire for us."

On Glenn: “Aaron Glenn will come in and coach the secondary. He, too, had a brief stop at the end of his career with us. I was with Aaron with the Cowboys. (He’s) a real smart player, a guy that played a long time in this league and really has a real good understanding of the back end. He was always that guy that players gravitated to with questions while studying film.

On Giunta: “Peter Giunta will be a senior defensive assistant. He’s a veteran NFL coach. I’ve never worked with Peter but I’ve competed against his teams all the way back to St. Louis, when he was with the Rams. He was the defensive coordinator in their Super Bowl season. He’s been with the Chiefs, most recently with the Giants. His experience, I think, will help us tremendously. He’ll be a real good ally for (defensive coordinator) Dennis (Allen) in regard to having seen and done a number of things. He’ll help us on the back end with third down, just one of those real sharp, veteran coaches.”

Payton said he will attempt to fill the spot vacated by Lewis this week.

Source: John DeShazier: Extended look at players one of many benefits of Senior Bowl for Saints

jeanpierre · 02-02-2016, 07:49 AM

Getting that same uneasy feeling as I had last season with regards to the defense that we may have too many cooks in the kitchen...

Saint in Aus · 02-02-2016, 06:36 PM

Dennis Allan is DC now isn't he? He should be able to control that unit regardless of how many assistants there are.

01-31-2016, 04:22 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff More FYI about 4-3 versus 3-4 4-3 base teams Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Carolina Panthers, Cincinnati Bengals, New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams, Dallas Cowboys, Atlanta Falcons, Oakland Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins, Philadelphia Eagles New York Giants. 3-4 base teams Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills, San Diego Chargers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Denver Broncos, Houston Texans, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Green Bay Packers, Baltimore Ravens, Arizona Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets, Washington Redskins,

01-31-2016, 04:40 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff More FYI 11 of the top 20 defenses ran a 4-3 9 of the top 20- defenses ran a 3-4 6 of the top 10 ran a 4-3 4 of the top 10 ran a 3-4 Half the playoff teams ran a 4-3. It appears their isn't a superior alignment.

01-31-2016, 07:18 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Danno More FYI 11 of the top 20 defenses ran a 4-3 9 of the top 20- defenses ran a 3-4 6 of the top 10 ran a 4-3 4 of the top 10 ran a 3-4 Half the playoff teams ran a 4-3. It appears their isn't a superior alignment. It's not so much getting bogged down in an argument for the 3-4 or 4-3 front being superior... It's the frustration of having drafted, acquired more 3-4 personnel than 4-3 and running a 4-3 because that's the only system Dennis Allen seems limited to running...
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02-04-2016, 06:15 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre It's not so much getting bogged down in an argument for the 3-4 or 4-3 front being superior... It's the frustration of having drafted, acquired more 3-4 personnel than 4-3 and running a 4-3 because that's the only system Dennis Allen seems limited to running... How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3? Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both. He's not "limited".

02-06-2016, 12:55 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Danno How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3? Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both. He's not "limited". He limits himself... After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha... In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays...

02-06-2016, 04:54 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre He limits himself... After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha... In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays... He limits himself? Where do you come up with this stuff?

02-01-2016, 12:45 PM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Question I ask is how is our D going to get us back on top. Allen and the boys want cut it in a 4-3 or a 3-4.

02-02-2016, 07:48 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff STAFF CHANGES Payton detailed several staff additions and subtractions Tuesday. The team has added Dan Campbell (tight ends), Aaron Glenn (secondary), Peter Giunta (senior defensive assistant) and Joe Lombardi (quarterbacks). Dan Roushar (offensive line) coached tight ends last season; Bret Ingalls was not retained... On Campbell: “Dan, I first got to work with when I was with the Giants and we drafted him out of Texas A&M. Then, later with the Cowboys, we signed him in free agency. I’ve always followed his career, I’ve been just a huge fan. We had a short time frame in ’09 where he was with us before he retired. Just a hard worker, I think a real good teacher. He’ll come in to the tight end position. Dan Roushar will move over into the offensive line position. He’s had a ton of experience coaching the offensive line. That was a real good hire for us." On Glenn: “Aaron Glenn will come in and coach the secondary. He, too, had a brief stop at the end of his career with us. I was with Aaron with the Cowboys. (He’s) a real smart player, a guy that played a long time in this league and really has a real good understanding of the back end. He was always that guy that players gravitated to with questions while studying film. On Giunta: “Peter Giunta will be a senior defensive assistant. He’s a veteran NFL coach. I’ve never worked with Peter but I’ve competed against his teams all the way back to St. Louis, when he was with the Rams. He was the defensive coordinator in their Super Bowl season. He’s been with the Chiefs, most recently with the Giants. His experience, I think, will help us tremendously. He’ll be a real good ally for (defensive coordinator) Dennis (Allen) in regard to having seen and done a number of things. He’ll help us on the back end with third down, just one of those real sharp, veteran coaches.” Payton said he will attempt to fill the spot vacated by Lewis this week. Source: John DeShazier: Extended look at players one of many benefits of Senior Bowl for Saints
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02-02-2016, 07:49 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff *Getting that same uneasy feeling as I had last season with regards to the defense that we may have too many cooks in the kitchen...*
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